Наааа, кто смелый? заходи!
| Posted by: OlCh on 22-12-2004, 09:44 |
    вот такой на вид мужичок... но музыкант - моща, я вам доложу  Biography by William Ruhlmann Blues guitarist Winter became a major star in the late '60s and early '70s. Since that time he's confirmed his reputation in the blues by working with Muddy Waters and continuing to play in the style, despite musical fashion. Born in Beaumont, TX, Winter formed his first band at 14 with his brother Edgar in Beaumont, and spent his youth in recording studios cutting regional singles and in bars playing the blues. His discovery on a national level came via an article in Rolling Stone... Read (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE4791EDB48AB7F20C2966C179A947DF71ED342F38250325F498DE7621BDF5C6AB00EBADBCFAEF875B47DE3FE2CAE5B0FD9CEE8468DA1&sql=11:jxkbikv6bb39~T1 More... ............................................................... Johnny Winter. 1969 Second Winter. 2004 [Legacy Edition] Originaly Remastered. Expanded. Bonus CD. WavPack-hybrid Review by Thom Jurek Second Winter, Johnny Winter's second album for Columbia, originally had the distinction of being the only album in rock history that was a three-sided double LP. Musically, 35 years after its original release, Second Winter is still an oddity. Issued by Sony's Legacy division, the set has been painstakingly remastered, and expanded by bonus cuts and an entire disc of live material. It's too bluesed-out to be a pure rock record, and too psychedelically dimensioned to be a pure blues album. Tommy Shannon calls it "power blues." And as for whatever else passed for blues-rock at the time — Cream, Hendrix, Canned Heat, etc. — forget it. This set is a whole different animal. Cut in Nashville with all tracks begin done within one or two takes, the energy of Second Winter is undeniable. The sheer range of styles Winter assaulted in his restless quest is astonishing too. The set begins with a blues-funk cover of Percy Mayfield's classic "Memory Pain," that adds a wealth of rock sonics to the mix. The same goes for the gritty originals like "I'm Not Sure," with its screaming electric mandolin, and the album's closer "Fast Life Rider." The latter two are textured with Edgar's stellar piano work. Then there's the album's centerpiece, the signature cover of Bob Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited" with its burning, gut bucket slide work and Winter's bona fide revival of Chuck Berry's "Johnny B. Goode." Trad Delta blues makes its appearance here as well in "I Love Everybody," as does jump jazz in "I Hate Everybody," both of them with Winter's raucous edge. The original album is buoyed here with a pair of bonus tracks, an instrumental version of Ray Charles' "Tell the Truth," as well as the jump blues classic "Early in the Morning." Disc two in the set is an entire unreleased concert from the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 with the same band The show is a monster showcasing all the fiery craziness of Winter's nearly unbelievable guitar mastery on tracks such as "Mean Town Blues," "Black Cat Bone," "It's My Own Fault," "Tobacco Road," and "Johnny B. Goode." It is also significant for the early performance of Edgar's classic, "Frankenstein" — it's a very different, and preferable — version than the one recorded in the studio. All in all, fantastic sound, an excellent package, and good notes by Andy Aledort make this a welcome addition to the classic rock canon. Disc 1: Second Winter 1 Memory Pain Mayfield 5:31 2 I'm Not Sure Winter 5:21 3 The Good Love Collins 4:42 4 Slippin' and Slidin' Bocage, Collins, Penniman ... 2:44 5 Miss Ann Johnson, Penniman 3:40 6 Johnny B. Goode Berry 2:46 7 Highway 61 Revisited Dylan 5:09 8 I Love Everybody Winter 3:48 9 Hustled Down in Texas Winter 3:32 10 I Hate Everybody Winter 2:33 11 Fast Life Rider Winter 7:04 12 Early in the Morning [#/*] Bartlry, Hickman, Jordan 3:49 13 Tell the Truth [#/*/instrumental] Pauling 4:30 Disc 2: a legendary show - Live at Royal Albert Hall 1970 1 Help Me [live/#] Bass, Dixon, Williamson 4:58 2 Johnny B. Goode [live/#] Berry 3:40 3 Mama Talk to Your Daughter [live/#] Atkins, Lenoir 5:16 4 It's My Own Fault [live/#] King, Taub 11:59 5 Black Cat Bone [live/#] Winter 5:38 6 Mean Town Blues [live/#] Winter 11:12 7 Tobacco Road [live/#] Loudermilk 11:04 8 Frankenstein [live/#] Winter 9:11 9 Tell the Truth [live/#] Pauling 9:08 Tommy Shannon (SRV) played bass, Uncle John Turner drums, and Edgar [Winter] played everything else. From Customer Reviews Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00064ADR0/ref=m_art_li_2/102-9921547-9420108?v=glance&s=music : This release could be the best thing thats occured in 2004! It is ,once more, evidence that the best music ever produced has come and gone. "Second Winter" is a timeless musical treasure containing a mindblowing set of songs. Very rare is it that one finds an album where every track is wonderful. I was fortunate to be at the live Royal Albert Hall concert featured in the bonus c.d. Wow, does this recording take me back in a time capsule to the event itself!! It was a truly historical time in blues/rock music.... This is Johnny on top of his game. An innovative 3-sided lp becomes a brilliant cd. Progressive blues at its finest, 'Second Winter' sits right alongside 'Electric Ladyland', 'Led Zeppelin' & 'Wheels of Fire' as the finest blues-rock ever created. A Desert Island Disc fer sure! The two additional studio cuts are excellent (one is a Ray Charles tune) and the 1970 Royal Albert Hall concert is a treasure. Saw this band many times back in the day, and this is truly representative of what they were. Tommy Shannon (SRV) played bass, Uncle John Turner drums, and Edgar played everything else. How they held this back for all these years is beyond me. Blues playing doesn't get any better than this. Johnny's excellent follow up to "Johnny Winter". Less blues oriented than his first release and more for those fans that want "Rock" music. The Live CD is fantastic and showcases an evolving band that includes Edgar (Johnny rarely appeared live as anything more than a trio after 1975). The sound quality on this rare performance is excellent. A must have for JDW fans and anyone who wants an intro to this gifted performer. |
| Posted by: OlCh on 22-12-2004, 09:45 |
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WavPack is a completely open audio compression format providing lossless, high-quality lossy, and a unique hybrid compression mode. Although the technology is loosely based on previous versions of WavPack, the new version 4 format has been designed from the ground up to offer unparalleled performance and functionality.... http://www.wavpack.com/ (http://www.wavpack.com/ WavPack , да ещё и гыбрид? как грит уважаемый Биллы - СпрашиваеЦЦа зачем? и по мне так затем: все (кто желает этот альбом иметь, конечно) скачивает фаил .wv - ето нечто типа мп3  - слушает музычку (WinAmp, Foobar2000, Apollo), понравилось дюже - скачивает корректирующий файл .wvc... ставим в одной директории оба файла, конвертируем в .wav, пишем CD  а сам по себе кодек универсальный: WavPack 4.1 Features (with latest enhancements in bold): Compatible with virtually all PCM audio formats including 8, 16, and 24-bit ints; 32-bit floats; mono, stereo, and multichannel; sampling rates from 6 to 192 kHz Multiplatform support including Windows, Linux, and OS X Instantly seekable and streaming capable Error-tolerant block format conducive to hardware decoding Optional "asymmetrical" mode for improved compression MD5 audio checksums for verification and identification Unique hybrid mode (provides high quality lossy + "correction" file) Hybrid mode now operates as low as 2.25 bits/sample (or 196 kbps for CD audio) Free and open source with easier to use library interface and unrestrictive license (BSD) Intuitive command line interface (with wildcards and destination directory) Small, efficient executable (no large programs or dlls to install) Fully backward compatible to WavPack 1.0 Self-extracting archives (Windows only) Complete piping support Software Compatibility: Custom Windows frontend (by Speek) Winamp input plugin (w/ ReplayGain) Foobar2000 playback component (w/ ReplayGain and cuesheets) Adobe Audition (Cool Edit) filter (w/ 32-bit floats & extra info save) Apollo audio player plugin (w/ ReplayGain) Nero Burning ROM plugin сам кодек и все примочки - в раре с .wv  |
| Posted by: Шибзик on 22-12-2004, 10:40 |
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Ну ты замутил с wavpack.. А чё по старинке не сделал та? А за диск спасибо.. давно искал винтера |
| Posted by: Brenda on 22-12-2004, 13:01 |
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Диск прекрасный, спасибо, OlCh. Один из лучших дисков Уинтера. Подарок прямо праздничный. Просьба: проверь, пожалуйста, это Ссылка 2: CD 1 part for lossless а то пришлось "вручную" ссылку доработать, просто кликом не срабатывала. Brenda |
| Posted by: OlCh on 22-12-2004, 13:51 |
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Brenda линк подправил, спасибо за контроль А с тобой Шибзик поговорим позже  ... и, может быть, в другом месте!
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| Posted by: Шибзик on 22-12-2004, 17:46 |
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Бить будете дядько?
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| Posted by: Гордый on 22-12-2004, 18:06 |
О большое спасибо, редко Винтера встретиш!  Ну и форматик...  
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| Posted by: kokiku on 22-12-2004, 22:04 |
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Да, форматик - век живи, век учись!
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| Posted by: OlCh on 23-12-2004, 07:53 | ||
не, не буду... бегать то всё тяжелее становится
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| Posted by: OlCh on 23-12-2004, 11:11 | ||||
и все с вышним образованием!  древние индейцы и то могли до трёх посчитать, а тут всего то 2 файла максимум вот посмотрите кое какую цифирь и можно будет поговорить конкретно wav-557mb encode WavPacklossless - 57sec - 367mb fast APE - 65sec - 353mb fast Flac - 107sec - 362mb level 5 WavPackHybrid - 122sec - 133+227=360mb (lossy 320kb/sec) decode WavPacklossless - 47sec Flac - 48sec WavPackHybrid - 105 APE - 128sec |
| Posted by: Гордый on 23-12-2004, 16:18 |
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А вот не надо сразу цифрами забрасывать! Это мы тоже можем... просто давно известно, что для ослиной братвы самый важный показатель - это размер файла! (кто сколько тратит на энкод и декод это часное дело) а размер - это дело общее, а значит святое! А эксперементировать надо - дело похвальное, а то может что-нибудь прозеваем, что лучше жмёт, чем обезяна!  
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| Posted by: OlCh on 24-12-2004, 12:06 |
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смелых оказалось много второй диск пошел в народ
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| Posted by: Voronok on 24-12-2004, 20:14 | ||
Вот именно по этой причине гибридные кодеки вроде WavPack 4 или OptimFrog и представляют ценность для ослиной братвы Сначала качаем lossy часть, слушаем ее, зацениваем. Нравится - докачиваем файлы коррекции и получаем полноценный альбом. Не нравится - не докачиваем, и экономим в этом случае в среднем пару сотен мегов трафика. Так что OlCh, респект за хорошую идею ! И за интересный альбом 
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| Posted by: OlCh on 25-12-2004, 13:43 |
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спасибо Voronok огромное ,- всё ждал что кто-то поймёт сам - нафига старый дуралей "замутил с кодеком" ? и ещё интересный момент... как убеждённый противник мп3, огг, мпц и т.д. может помочь ребятам, которые "сидят" на 56кб-модемах из-за непомерной цены на ДСЛ, например, в России? дык вот так 
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| Posted by: OlCh on 29-12-2004, 00:12 |
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спасибо kokiku, KillerRips, Oven, elsz за поднятие файлов и всем, кто помогает в релизe
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| Posted by: yury_usa on 14-12-2005, 22:28 |
| огромное спасибо! |
| Posted by: Basic on 15-12-2005, 00:07 | ||
Про кодек есть одно замечание. Только что закончил бороться с парочкой. John Mayall'S Bluesbreakers F Walter Trout Eac Wvc.rar John.Mayall_s.Bluesbreakers.f.Walter.Trout.eac.cue.wv.scans.rar Как видно, со временем имена файлов разошлись. Я еще первым зацепился за имя в котором был &. Сейчас оно не отсвечивает в поиске. И надо было ссобразить искать пару. |
| Posted by: yury_usa on 15-12-2005, 00:17 |
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я и не заметил что этому топику почти год
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| Posted by: OlCh on 15-12-2005, 20:07 | ||
ведь имена важны внутренние, в архивах, а их то кто поменял?
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| Posted by: Basic on 15-12-2005, 20:40 | ||
Вот кому то было не лень. Там на каждый архив отсвечивает по несколько имен. Надо же было сообразить что это - ПАРА. |
| Posted by: OlCh on 16-12-2005, 09:21 |
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заделать по новой что ли, во FLAC-e?
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| Posted by: yury_usa on 16-12-2005, 17:24 | ||
OlCh
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| Posted by: OlCh on 19-02-2006, 09:41 |
yury_usa а грят WavPack теперь в моде!? 
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| Posted by: yury_usa on 19-02-2006, 09:57 |
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не знаю.. я пока с обезьяны слезать боюсь разве что на флаку.. и то, из уважения к фубарке
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| Posted by: Diken on 19-02-2006, 14:13 |
| а в торренте раздать? Можно и во FLAC'e. С осла не льется |
| Posted by: OlCh on 20-02-2006, 07:09 |
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в торренте и ..., ну любой сможет , а ты осла приручи!
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| Posted by: yury_usa on 20-02-2006, 07:57 | ||
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| Posted by: OlCh on 21-02-2006, 00:17 | ||||
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| Posted by: yury_usa on 21-02-2006, 00:29 |
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OlCh все равно где, его потом с торрента в осла закинут или наоборот |
| Posted by: OlCh on 21-02-2006, 00:34 |
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yury_usa Косоглазый Джони и так есть в осле, панимаешь? а человек хочет получить его в торренте!
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| Posted by: Diken on 21-02-2006, 23:33 |
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Качать потихоньку осел все же начал, к концу недели наверно скачает. Спасиб |
| Posted by: kinkkm on 14-05-2015, 13:50 |
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За Винтера спасибо! Релиз этот имею, а вот с картинками к нему засада. Подмогните, у кого еще остался архивчик
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