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Posted by: yury_usa on 24-12-2008, 02:16
Trondheim Soloists - Divertimenti
Артист: Trondheim Soloists (http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=1097&show=review
Альбом: Divertimenti, 2008
Издатель: 2L (Norway)
Жанр: Classical
Формат файла: wv (tagged)
24/192 Stereo (ed2k): CD (FIXED)* (ed2k://|file|TrondheimSolistene-2008.Divertimenti.Blu-Ray.Audio.LPCM.Stereo.24bit-192kHz.yury_usa.FIXED.wv|2596695590|2BCA9205E4C55E133346BFE1EC99F7F1|h=MLP33ORYYOZM6AQPKPP3IA35BVMMZK5X|/
24/192 Stereo (torrent): CD (FIXED)* (http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=16891
24/192 5.1 FLAC (ed2k): CD new! (ed2k://|file|TrondheimSolistene-2008.Divertimenti.Blu-Ray.Audio.LPCM.Multichannel.24bit-192kHz.yury_usa.flac|6637941528|6DFB1084B148A0829B7369C5ED22AA5D|h=ZC5N7626XJ422YKTUHYURHYZ37AM5PDG|/
24/192 5.1 CUE (ed2k): CD new! (ed2k://|file|TrondheimSolistene-2008.Divertimenti.Blu-Ray.Audio.LPCM.Multichannel.24bit-192kHz.yury_usa.cue|1852|1621BAFB2CDEBE0814416B39E33EF640|h=SID2T3W2JUZTDZLU7DWHSWHSIKDZ6RLZ|/
24/192 5.1 (torrent): CD new! (http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=16910
Нахождение: eDonkey/Torrent
Примечание: ripped from Blu-Ray. Superb sound quality!
TRACKLIST
 1. SIMPLE SYMPHONY, OP 4: 1. BOISTEROUS BOURREE (Britten). . . . . . . .3:03
 2. SIMPLE SYMPHONY, OP 4: 2. PLAYFUL PIZZICATO (Britten) . . . . . . . .3:09
 3. SIMPLE SYMPHONY, OP 4: 3. SENTIMENTAL SARABAND (Britten). . . . . . .6:22
 4. SIMPLE SYMPHONY, OP 4: 4. FROLICSOME FINALE (Britten) . . . . . . . .2:55
 5. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 1. ALLEGRO (Bacewicz). . . . . . . . .5:14
 6. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 2. ANDANTE (Bacewicz). . . . . . . . .5:03
 7. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 3. VIVO (Bacewicz) . . . . . . . . . .5:07
 8. CARMINA (Terje Bjorklund). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .13:09
 9. DIVERTIMENTO FOR STRINGS, SZ 113: 1. ALLEGRO NON TROPPO (Bartok). . .8:54
10. DIVERTIMENTO FOR STRINGS, SZ 113: 2. MOLTO ADAGIO (Bartok). . . . . .8:06
11. DIVERTIMENTO FOR STRINGS, SZ 113: 3. ALLEGRO ASSAI (Bartok) . . . . .7:57

*old hash had wrong cuesheet indexes. Sorry, I had to make a new hash
SPOILER (2.0 spectrum)

SPOILER (5.1 spectrum)

SPOILER (Cue Sheet)

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-12-2008, 02:16
Review (fanfaremag)

Why, you may rightfully ask, is a review of a Blu-ray disc-the hot new high-definition video medium-not in the DVD (or video) section of this magazine? The answer is that this release is something new, a music-only Blu-ray disc. BDs are proliferating on the shelves of Blockbuster and Best Buy because the sensational picture quality shows off what high definition television is capable of. But the audio specifications of the technology represent a giant improvement over the compressed surround-sound options carried on regular DVDs, Dolby Digital, and DTS; in fact, the sonics leapfrog over CD into SACD territory. Opus Arte has already released a number of Blu-ray programs of opera, ballet, and concert material. But why not use BD as a music carrier and forget about video altogether? That’s what we have here, with this program entitled "Divertimenti."

Place "Divertimenti" in a Blu-ray player, turn on the video display, and you’ll see a menu to choose among audio options and to select the music you’ll hear. Then, you may as well turn off the TV. Founded by recording engineer Morten Lindberg, 2L (for Lindberg Lyd AS) is a Norwegian company that has been releasing CDs and SACDs since 1996. The intrepid listener is provided with no fewer than five audio options on the BD, plus another three on the hybrid multichannel SACD that’s also included in the set. These are derived from an ultra-high-resolution DXD master-if you must know, that’s Digital eXtreme Definition, with the music originally encoded at 32-bit/352.8 kHz. "Divertimenti" offers the program at 24-bit/192 kHz quality as DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1, Dolby Digital TrueHD 5.1, Linear PCM 5.1, and PCM Stereo. There’s also, for some reason, regular old-fashioned Dolby Digital 5.1. The sound of the high-resolution versions is sensational-extended, super-clean without any digital astringency, richly textured, and dimensional. Additionally, 2L provides a multichannel perspective that puts the listener in the middle of the action. It’s highly involving and takes one deeply into the performance without seeming at all gimmicky.

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nominated for 3 grammys:
    Best Surround Sound Album
    Best Engineered Album, Classical
    Best Small Ensemble Performance

Posted by: Гордый on 24-12-2008, 02:28
Ух ты! :punk:
Я надеюсь они использовали другую технику (http://www.thenaimlabel.co.uk/true_stereo.htm?! :laugh:

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-12-2008, 02:31
Покаместь выложу стерео, а там поглядим - если народ многоканалку захочет :rolleyes:

Posted by: Гордый on 24-12-2008, 02:33
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 24-12-2008, 00:31):
Покаместь выложу стерео, а там поглядим - если народ многоканалку захочет :rolleyes:
И правильно, сначала надо заценить! :hi:

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-12-2008, 10:26
Мои извинения, в старом релизе был кривой куй. Поправил, и заново прошил с новым хешем

Posted by: OlCh on 24-12-2008, 15:01
вот у САЦД как-то маловато басов - толъко с выделеным басовиком звучит хорошо, заслухаем как там с блу-рея играется :drag:

Posted by: grill on 24-12-2008, 15:38
THX yury_usa
I would also appreciate surround :punk:

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-12-2008, 19:32
QUOTE (OlCh @ 24-12-2008, 11:30):
без опроса, прямой вопрос:
кто может проигрывать хотя бы на компе "возможные"! 24/192 5.1?
24/192 2.0 могу, 24/192 5.1 даунсэмплит в 24/96 :(
Audigy2 ZS

Posted by: yury_usa on 25-12-2008, 21:34
Походу проблема с 5.1... Целый флак или вавпак играет, но если вшить куй в него, на 7м треке выскакивает "seek error", "corrupted file" итп :drag:

Posted by: Гордый on 25-12-2008, 21:55
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 25-12-2008, 19:34):
Походу проблема с 5.1... Целый флак или вавпак играет, но если вшить куй в него, на 7м треке выскакивает "seek error", "corrupted file" итп :drag:
Проблема в размере файла. :pig:

Posted by: INN4 on 27-12-2008, 00:36
Спасибо. Чуть не начал качать с торентсру. А здесь стерео - как раз то, что нужно. Буду сравнивать с винилом.

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 01:00
QUOTE (Гордый @ 25-12-2008, 13:55):
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 25-12-2008, 19:34):
Походу проблема с 5.1... Целый флак или вавпак играет, но если вшить куй в него, на 7м треке выскакивает "seek error", "corrupted file" итп :drag:
Проблема в размере файла. :pig:
да, я уже понял. Пока удалось сделать FLAC + отдельный к нему cue :diablo:

Posted by: Гордый on 27-12-2008, 01:02
А вот и я... :nlo: Испугались? А надо было. :lol:
Сыграно очень даже хорошо, другого и не ожидалось. :D: Музыка сама не зацепила. Честно совсем не понял. Кроме
QUOTE:
5. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 1. ALLEGRO (Bacewicz). . . . . . . . .5:14
6. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 2. ANDANTE (Bacewicz). . . . . . . . .5:03
7. CONCERTO FOR STRING ORCHESTRA: 3. VIVO (Bacewicz) . . . . . . . . . .5:07
Очень не дурно, раньше никогда не слышал!? :hi:
Качество само собой на высоте! ...НО! :rolleyes:
При записи виолончели то ли микрофоны не подходящие, то ли далеко от микрофонов сидели - ну не слышно их и всё. Это упоминал уже OlCh про басы. Лоханулись они при записи или свели не правильно. Остаётся одна надежда на многоканалку, может там лучше слышно виолончели? :help:

Posted by: alluneedislove on 27-12-2008, 03:25
How to unpack this? Tried to change file ending to iso, but daemon will not mount it. Can unpack to wav, but I only get one track of 6 minutes?? This is unfinished work yury...

Posted by: Гордый on 27-12-2008, 03:38
QUOTE (alluneedislove @ 27-12-2008, 01:25):
How to unpack this? Tried to change file ending to iso, but daemon will not mount it. Can unpack to wav, but I only get one track of 6 minutes?? This is unfinished work yury...
alluneedislove, you are wrong. :p: File is complete!
SPOILER!

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 03:43
QUOTE (alluneedislove @ 26-12-2008, 19:25):
How to unpack this? Tried to change file ending to iso, but daemon will not mount it. Can unpack to wav, but I only get one track of 6 minutes?? This is unfinished work yury...
Why would you want to unpack? For burning DVD-A? If so, you can convert to FLAC by using DBPowerAMP (with FLAC and WavPack plugins).
I believe DiscWelder recognizes FLAC. WAV format is not supported due to its implementation (>4Gb)
Also, you can split file using foobar+cuesheet provided in 1st post :wink:

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 03:45
Гордый
Как лучше выложить 5.1? Отдельно FLAC и CUE? :rolleyes:

Posted by: alluneedislove on 27-12-2008, 03:46
Didn't know about the 4 GB limit in wav. Really don't understand how to get this onto a dvd-a. Will try dbpoweramp...

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 03:51
QUOTE (alluneedislove @ 26-12-2008, 19:46):
Didn't know about the 4 GB limit in wav. Really don't understand how to get this onto a dvd-a. Will try dbpoweramp...
actually, you dont even need it. Try splitting files directly in foobar. Open wv file, then right click on each track and convert into WAV (or FLAC, if WAVs would be long) :hi:

Posted by: alluneedislove on 27-12-2008, 03:56
That seems to do the trick :) Thanks!

Posted by: alluneedislove on 27-12-2008, 04:01
By the way yury, did you have the opportunity to compare the different soundtracks on this? I have a blu-ray player and sacd/dvd-a of course. Would be fun to compare DTS Master, Dolby True HD and SACD, all in multichannel. Only downloaded this to checkout the music. Will buy the Blu-ray disc if I like it.

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 04:12
I haven't yet.. I think I'll just keep PCM 2.0 and maybe PCM 5.1 :)

Posted by: yury_usa on 27-12-2008, 10:25
выложил в 5.1! :punk:

Posted by: grill on 27-12-2008, 12:36
yury_usa
Благодарность :hi:

Posted by: OlCh on 28-12-2008, 15:53
далее гутарим тама Topic Link: интересно что за формат 5.1 24/192 возможен "вне" блу-рея? (http://netlab.e2k.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=91158

Posted by: alluneedislove on 03-01-2009, 18:31
Can this be converted to wav, downsampled to 24/96 and burned to dvd-audio with Discwelder? I have no other way to play multichannel hi-rez than dvd-audio, so I hope this can be done.

Posted by: alluneedislove on 05-01-2009, 01:22
Nobody who can answer my questions?

Posted by: Гордый on 05-01-2009, 01:25
QUOTE (alluneedislove @ 03-01-2009, 16:31):
Can this be converted to wav, downsampled to 24/96 and burned to dvd-audio with Discwelder? I have no other way to play multichannel hi-rez than dvd-audio, so I hope this can be done.
no problem! Do it. :diablo:

Posted by: alluneedislove on 07-01-2009, 01:16
I have problems with this. Discwelder won't let me create image, and I have set dvd size to dual layer. Discwelder is unstable as usual... I have opened the final wav 24/96 files in Adobe audition, but the separate files are not properly named, so I cannot figure which of the 6 files are C, L etc...
If ANYONe know how to split these files into 6 wav's so I can use MLP decoder, or any other way to burn this to DVD-Audio, i would be very thankful.

Posted by: alluneedislove on 07-01-2009, 02:16
Okay, Audition 3 recognizes all 6 files in the wav correctly :) I now have to save all files separately and then code with MLP, and finally burn the damn thing...

Posted by: grill on 24-01-2009, 18:49
I've prepared the DVD-audio version of Divertimenti. It contains 2.0 24/192 and 5.1 24/96 MLP tracks with still image and menu. If you are interested in it and yury_usa agrees I can upload it for torrent.

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-01-2009, 19:13
I already have DVD-A of this from JaggerV (2xDVD5). I'll try to upload it soon, if it's ok :)

Posted by: grill on 24-01-2009, 19:49
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 24-01-2009, 17:13):
I already have DVD-A of this from JaggerV (2xDVD5). I'll try to upload it soon, if it's ok :)
OK

Posted by: yury_usa on 24-01-2009, 20:10
Done: Topic Link: Trondheim Soloists - Divertimenti (2008) (http://netlab.e2k.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=91534 :D

Posted by: jaxon on 07-02-2009, 09:31
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 24-01-2009, 19:13):
I already have DVD-A of this from JaggerV (2xDVD5). I'll try to upload it soon, if it's ok :)
would a D9 possible for this?

Posted by: grill on 08-02-2009, 18:14
QUOTE (jaxon @ 07-02-2009, 07:31):
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 24-01-2009, 19:13):
I already have DVD-A of this from JaggerV (2xDVD5). I'll try to upload it soon, if it's ok :)
would a D9 possible for this?
I've prepared the DVD9 version, plays fine on Pio DV-600. I may share it but my upload speed is rather slow.
Or you mean BD9?

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