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Posted by: OlCh on 28-10-2003, 10:53
Артист:Pink Floyd
Альбом:Pink Floyd Rarities, Vol. 2 ,
Жанр:today and always - Pink Floyd!
Формат файла:eac-ape-cue-cover-rar cd3, cd4
Ссылка:CD (ed2k://|file|Pink.Floyd.A.Tree.Full.Of.Secrets.Vol.2.rar|704476052|177777ffc959f14b158204601f4d7e3f|/
Нахождение:eDonkey
Примечание:Volume 2 (CD3 - CD4): Pink Floyd Rarities 1969 - 1973. Songs from "Ummagumma" era, "Moonhead", rare Italian single "In Concerto", "One Of These Days" demos, "One Of These Days"/"Fearless" promo single, Roger The Hat interview and a whole CD (CD4) dedicated to the "Dark Side Of The Moon" rarities (single versions, promo edits, rough mixes, demos, outtakes), compiled in the same order as the album (from "Breathe" to "Eclipse").

На сей раз архив содержит обложки для первых 4-х дисков.


A Tree Full of Secrets
the definitive Pink Floyd rarities compilation

Introduction

On 18 CDs (yes, eighteen!) you'll find all the A and B sides of all the Pink Floyd singles, all the promo, edited, obscured, or remixed versions, and all the soundtracks bits of your favorite Pink Floyd and solo tracks.
Basically, this collection includes (nearly) all songs officially released, but not on regular album (compilations, singles, promos, soundtracks...), as well as rare versions from acetates and studio outtakes. We didn't consider live tracks (concerts, radio or TV appearances), unless they're part of a single or a promo single. We also left out of this scope the Syd Barrett solo rarities, because it mainly consists in slightly different mixes of regular versions (we'd like to let a more hardcore fan than we are, doing the job). Some other things are not included, mainly because they could be treed separately, as a whole entity: "Live At Pompeii" and "The Wall" soundtracks, mono editions of albums ("The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn", "A Saucerful Of Secrets"), quadraphonic editions of albums ("Atom Heart Mother", "The Dark Side Of The Moon", "Wish You Were Here")...
There are in fact 17 audio CDs and one data CD. This latter CD contains all the artworks and booklets (with all you ever dreamt to know about each track of each CD!), and some bonus files (that we hope you'll enjoy) while keeping the secret about their contents.
We tried to make the most definitive Pink Floyd rarities compilation, in both completeness and sound quality. For each track, we tried to find the best sounding version available. As a result, we're proud to say that a lot of tracks sound better than any other version available elsewhere.


Rules

What we mean with the word "rarity":

1) Song officially released, but not on regular albums (compilations, singles, soundtracks...) [1]
2) Alternate mix (acetate...)
3) Outtake from unreleased studio session
4) Demo

[1] with an exception for the stuff being a part of a whole "entity"
(most of them are available separately, as other projects).
For instance, the following stuff is not included:
- "Live At Pompeii" soundtrack
- "The Wall" soundtrack
- mono "Piper At The Gates Of Dawn", "A Saucerful Of Secrets"
- quadraphonic "Atom Heart Mother", "Dark Side Of The Moon", "Wish You Were Here"
- "Delicate Sound Of Thunder" video
- "P*U*L*S*E" video

"Chronological" rules for tracklist:

1) tracks are sorted by recording date, not release date [2]
2) different versions of the same track with same recording date are sorted by release date [3]
3) singles from the same album are listed in the same order than on the album [4]
[2] with an exception for the demos, placed before the actual release, to save "continuity" and to hear how the song evolved from the demo to the released version.
[3] if the release date is the same or unknown, the versions are sorted from the most "usual" to the most "unusual": single version -> extended version -> promo version
[4] unless the recording dates are known with precision for each track (in this case, see rule nr.1)

Contents

There are in fact 17 audio CDs and 1 data CD. This latter CD contains all the artworks and booklets, and some bonus files.
Now, how are all these tracks organized into 17 audio CDs?
The first 8 CDs contain the Pink Floyd rarities (from 1965 to 1994).
The next 6 CDs contain the soundtracks (from Pink Floyd and members).
The last 3 CDs contain the solo members rarities.
The 17 CDs are split into 9 volumes (each volume is a 2 CD set, except volume 9, which is a single CD). So, there are 9 different artworks, and the whole Rarities compilation will take the place of 9 jewel boxes in your CD collection.



CD3

1 - Astronomy Dominé (Barrett) - live short version 04:00
Recorded : live, Bromley, Technical College, April 26, 1969
& Birmingham, Mother's Club, April 27, 1969
& Manchester, College of Commerce, May 2, 1969
Primary source : "The New Spirit of Capitol" sampler, released 1969?
Source for the tree : "The New Spirit of Capitol" sampler
"Ummagumma" live version with early fade out.

2 - Embryo (Waters) 04:37
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, April - June 1969
Primary source : "Picnic - A Breath of Fresh Air" Harvest sampler, released June 1970
Source for the tree : "Works" CD
This version is often considered as a demo. In fact, it was recorded during the "Ummagumma" studio sessions at Abbey Road, but it was not included on the album, because the band later decided to organise the studio disc in four parts (one part for each member). This song first appeared in June 1970 on "Picnic - A Breath of Fresh Air" Harvest sampler, without the band's agreement. In 1983, this version was included on "Works" Canadian compilation, this time with the band's agreement.

3 - Biding My Time (Waters) 05:14
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, April - June 1969
Primary source : "Relics" compilation, released May 14, 1971
Source for the tree : "Relics" CD
This is the other song that was recorded during the "Ummagumma" studio sessions, but was not included on the album. This track was part of "The Man & the Journey" concept suite that the Floyd used to perform in 1969.

Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict (Waters)
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, April - June 1969
Primary source : "Ummagumma" album, released October 25, 1969
Source for the tree : "Ummagumma" 1994 remaster CD
Length :
4 - "this is pretty avant-garde isn't it" 00:09
During Roger Waters' speech at 04:32, this sentence can be heard on the right channel (you have to play the song at half speed to hear it properly).
5 - "and the wind cried ... " 00:06
There was a strong debate about what Roger says at the very end of the track: "And the wind cried Mary ? Marion ? Back ? ". Make your own opinion before Dave thanks you ;-)
Note : it is also said that at some point Roger says "Bring Back My Guitar", but we haven't been able to find this sentence during the song (or nothing that could be clearly identified as this).

6 - Moonhead (uncredited) 05:47
Recorded : July 10, 1969
Primary source : BBC TV broadcast, July 20, 1969
Source for the tree : unknown gen copy
This unreleased track was recorded by the band for the BBC TV broadcast during the night of the first moon landing (July 20, 1969). The show was subtitled "What if it's just green cheese". Note that the bass line later developed into the central part of "Money".

Atom Heart Mother (Mason, Gilmour, Waters, Wright, Geesin) - announcements
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, 1970
Primary source : "Atom Heart Mother" album, released October 10, 1970
Source for the tree : "Atom Heart Mother" remaster CD
7 - "here's a loud announcement" 00:05
This sentence was probably said by Ron Geesin (co-composer of the track) and can be heard at 17:28.
8 - "silence in the studio" 00:06
Another sentence by Ron Geesin. Can be heard at 19:08

9 - Green is the Colour (Waters) - live 03:52
10 - Careful with that Axe, Eugene (Waters, Wright, Gilmour, Mason) - live short version 03:42
11 - Embryo (Waters) - live short version 02:08
12 - Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (Waters) - live short version 05:19
Recorded : live, Hamburg, Muzikhalle, Grosser Saal, February 25, 1971
Primary source : "Hamburger" RoIO LP
Source for the tree : "Pink Floyd In Concerto" Italian single
These 4 tracks come from an Italian single entitled "Pink Floyd In Concerto" that was released as a bonus with the "Gong" magazine, sometimes in the 70's. This one plays extracts from a bootleg LP ("Hamburger"). When the powers that be found it was bootlegged music, they tried to stop the magazine selling, but some copies went through. The single was later re-released as a bonus with another bootleg LP ("A Special Treat").
Here's what the front cover of the single says: "Supplemento al No 1 anno 4o di 'GONG' mensile di musica e cultura progressiva. 'PINK FLOYD IN CONCERTO' 16 minuti di musica live da monaco di baviera".

13 - "Relics" radio advert #1 00:58
14 - "Relics" radio advert #2 00:58
Recorded : ?
Primary source : radio broadcast
Source for the tree : unknown gen copy from radio broadcast

15 - "Meddle" radio advert 00:57
Recorded : ?
Primary source : radio broadcast
Source for the tree : unknown gen copy from radio broadcast

16 - One of These Days (Waters, Wright, Mason, Gilmour) - demo #1 04:49
Recorded : 1971?
Primary source : ?
Source for the tree : "Granny Takes A Trip" RoIO CD
Nick Mason's words "One of these days I'm going to cut you into little pieces" are repeated all through the song. The voice in the background all along the track is the one of Jimmy Young, an English DJ who was disliked by the band and is the inspiration for the song. This Jimmy Young speech was also used during live performances in late 1974, when the band played a tape of this speech (in loop mode, with increasing tempo) before the song "Raving and Drooling" (early version of "Sheep").

17 - One of These Days (Waters, Wright, Mason, Gilmour) - demo #2 06:49
Recorded : 1971?
Primary source : ?
Source for the tree : "Granny Takes A Trip" RoIO CD
This second demo is more structured, and Jimmy Young is not talking in the background.
Note that some Floyd experts think these 2 demos could be a fake.

18 - One of These Days (Waters, Wright, Mason, Gilmour) - mono edit 03:28
Recorded : London, Morgan Studios, 1971
Primary source : "One Of These Days" US promo single, released 1971
Source for the tree : "One Of These Days" US promo single
Various short edits all along the song.

19 - Fearless (Gilmour, Waters) - mono edit 03:13
Recorded : London, 1971
Primary source : "One Of These Days" US promo single, released 1971
Source for the tree : "One Of These Days" US promo single
There's only one verse, which is mainly the first verse of the original version (until "just wait a while for the right day"), where the last lines were replaced by those of the second verse ("and as you rise ... faces in the crowd"). This version also fades out early.

20 - Roger the Hat interview 07:30
Recorded : 1972
Primary source : Capital Radio broadcast ("Pink Floyd Story"), December 1976 - January 1977
Source for the tree : unknown gen from Capital Radio broadcast
All though "The Dark Side of the Moon" album, you can hear the voices of people interviewed by the band. Here, Roger the Hat (who was a roadie for various rock bands) is interviewed by Roger Waters. On the album, you can hear his voice during "On the Run" ("Live for today, gone tomorrow, that's me, hahaha…") and during "Us And Them" ("Short, sharp shock …").

CD4

1 - Breathe (Waters, Gilmour, Wright) - mono 02:51
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP, released 1973
Source for the tree : 1st gen copy from "Breathe" promo single

2 - On the Run (Gilmour, Waters) - outtake 06:10
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, November 1972
Primary source : "Live At Pompeii" film
Source for the tree : "Live At Pompeii" LaserDisc
Studio outtake with interview segments. You can hear a keyboard jam in the first part and then a nearly finished mix in the second part.

3 - Time (Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour) - demo 06:05
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972
Primary source : ?
Source for the tree : "From the Other Side" RoIO CD
Rough mix from "The Dark Side of the Moon" recording sessions. Longer rototom intro. The instrumental part after "you missed the starting gun" has no guitar solo. It fades out at the beginning of "Breathe - reprise" (just before the words "Home, home again").

4 - Time (Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour) - stereo edit 03:26
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "Us And Them" single, released 1973
Source for the tree : 1st gen copy from "Us And Them" single
Shorter rototom intro, most of the central guitar solo is missing, rototom outro in place of "Breathe - reprise".

5 - Time (Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour) - mono edit 03:32
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP, released 1973
Source for the tree : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP
Same as previous edit: shorter rototom intro, most of the central guitar solo is missing, rototom outro in place of "Breathe - reprise".

6 - Money (Waters) - demo 01:38
Recorded : 1971
Primary source : BBC Radio One interview with David Gilmour, broadcast July 28, 1992
Source for the tree : "Pinkie Milkie" RoIO CD
Extract of Roger's early demo of the song. He plays a double tracked acoustic guitar while singing over the top.

7 - Money (Waters) - stereo edit 03:59
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "Money" single, released May 5, 1973
Source for the tree : "Money" 1993 UK Promo CD
The intro is shorter, the central part of the sax solo is edited, as well as parts 2 & 3 of the guitar solo (quiet part and theme reprise).

8 - Money (Waters) - "soft" stereo edit 04:02
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "Money" US promo single, released May 1973
Source for the tree : "Money" US promo single
Same as previous edit, plus "shit" edit during the sentence "Don't give me that do goody good bullshit".

9 - Money (Waters) - "soft" mono edit 03:59
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "Money" US promo single, released May 1973
Source for the tree : "Money" US promo single
Same as previous edit: the intro is shorter, the central part of the sax solo is edited, as well as parts 2 & 3 of the guitar solo and the word "shit" during the sentence "Don't give me that do goody good bullshit".

10 - Money (Waters) - alternate "soft" mono edit 03:10
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP, released 1973
Source for the tree : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP
Shorter intro, no sax solo, edited guitar solo, plus "shit edit" during the sentence "Don't give me that do goody good bullshit".

11 - Us And Them (Waters, Wright) - demo 05:27
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972
Primary source : ?
Source for the tree : "From the Other Side" RoIO CD
Sax solo is not mixed on and off, no echo on vocals, different piano part at the end.

12 - Us And Them (Waters, Wright) - outtake 06:10
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, November 1972
Primary source : "Live At Pompeii" film
Source for the tree : "Live At Pompeii" LaserDisc
Studio outtake with interview segments. The work in progress…
Note that in the film (at 04:05), an extract of "Eclipse" is inserted before David Gilmour says "It's an imagery we'd like to dispel…". We have reported this extract at the end of this disc.

13 - Us And Them (Waters, Wright) - stereo edit 03:18
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "Us And Them" US promo single, released February 4, 1974
Source for the tree : "Us And Them" US promo single
Various short edits during sax solos, no third verse, fade out during piano solo.

14 - Us And Them (Waters, Wright) - mono edit 03:18
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "The Dark Side Of The Moon" US promo EP, released 1973
Source for the tree : "Us And Them" US promo single
Same as previous edit: various short edits during sax solos, no third verse, fade out during piano solo.

15 - Brain Damage / Eclipse (Waters) - demo 03:24
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972
Primary source : ?
Source for the tree : "From the Other Side" RoIO CD
Fades in the middle of the song. No laughter after the first sentence. Guitar solo all along the track. No voice during the bridge between "Brain Damage" and "Eclipse".

16 - Brain Damage (Waters) - outtake 07:08
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, November 1972
Primary source : "Live At Pompeii" film
Source for the tree : "Live At Pompeii" LaserDisc
Studio outtake with interview segments. This version has guitar parts similar to the demo version.

17 - Brain Damage (Waters) - outtake 01:16
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, November 1972
Primary source : "Live At Pompeii" film
Source for the tree : "Live At Pompeii" LaserDisc
Length : 01:16
Studio outtake with interview segments. Slightly different bass line. Note that in the film this track is inserted between the two "Us And Them" parts.

18 - Eclipse - "mysterious ending tiny music" 00:30
Recorded : London, Abbey Road Studios, June 1972 - January 1973
Primary source : "The Dark Side of the Moon" album, released March 24, 1973
Source for the tree : "The Dark Side of the Moon" MFSL CD
At the very end of "The Dark Side of the Moon", you can hear at very low level (below the tape hiss level) some notes of music. Some think it's a Beatles tune, some don't ;-). Even if it's easier to remove it than keep it, all the remastered editions of the album have this "default".






Posted by: jverdel on 17-03-2007, 23:04
Really thanks for this one ! :-)

bye.

Posted by: OlCh on 17-03-2007, 23:37
this is live in net today? yesss!!! :clap:

Posted by: jverdel on 27-03-2007, 23:52
hi Olch ! :-)
i really appreciated your posts about pink floyd stuff !
i wonder if you ever found the Capitol reissue on 2000 of studio album "The Wall",
that is a remastered version different from the 1994 one.
i never found this one(capitol version) on emule.

bye,
Jack.

Posted by: OlCh on 28-03-2007, 20:08
QUOTE (jverdel @ 27-03-2007, 21:52):
the Capitol reissue on 2000 of studio album "The Wall",
that is a remastered version different from the 1994 one.
simple different or sound is better? :)

Posted by: jverdel on 29-03-2007, 01:41
QUOTE (OlCh @ 28-03-2007, 20:08):
QUOTE (jverdel @ 27-03-2007, 21:52):
the Capitol reissue on 2000 of studio album "The Wall",
that is a remastered version different from the 1994 one.
simple different or sound is better? :)
Hi :)
over the net and in other resources (like wikipedia) many people
say that this Capitol reissue is even better (in sound i mean) than
the 1994 remastered one (listening to this one i think i can say that mfsl is better: maybe noiser but more presence, sound depth) the 1994 is denoised but maybe too "treble".
the 2000 Capitol(CDP 724383124329) issue is the same(in sound meaning) of the 1997 remaster (Columbia C2K68519)
but different in the packaging.
however i have found lot of the wall version but neve the 2000 Capitol or 1997 Columbia
version. :(
i wish someone could post/rip it :p

bye,
Jack.

Posted by: OlCh on 29-03-2007, 11:23
but we have already Topic Link: Pink Floyd - The Wall (1979. 2CD) (http://netlab.e2k.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=67867 C2K 36183 - best version :clap:

Posted by: KREMEN5400 on 08-08-2007, 16:57
Дико извиняюсь, никак де доходят ухи прослушать сей замечательный релиз. Сейчас качаю Харвестедовские бутлеги, типа
Pink Floyd - Black Holes In The Sky Revision A (1974) [FLAC] {HRVCDR022 - 1974-11-15}
Pink Floyd - Bowl de Luna (1972) [FLAC] {HRVCDR012 - 1972-09-22}
Pink Floyd - Pompeii (1971) [FLAC] {HRVCDR010 Rev A - October 4-7, 1971}
Pink Floyd - Supine in the Sunshine Revision A (1973) [FLAC] {HRVCDR011 - 1973-05-19}
Pink Floyd - Who Was Trained Not To Spit On The Fan (1977) [FLAC] {HRV CDR 023 1977-06-07}

и другие. Они похоже не из этого диска ?

Posted by: OlCh on 09-08-2007, 08:11
как грят в Одессе - эт две больших разницы :drag:

Posted by: BeatleJohn on 10-08-2007, 00:35
у меня тоже не доходят уши. штук 200 в лосслесс этих бутов флойдов...

Кремень, я что-то не могу найти тему с твоим концертом в Москве. Что-то ты мне про это уже говорил, забыл..

Posted by: KREMEN5400 on 10-08-2007, 07:20
BeatleJohn
Я тебе говорил, что по результатам опроса никто не хочет. Ты ответил: "Я хочу !"
А съёмка вообще-то интересна даже тем, что общеизвестно, что у ПФ есть летающая свинья, но в Москву они превезли хряка с таким аппаратом, что боюсь обвинят в раздаче порнухи :laugh:

Posted by: KREMEN5400 on 10-08-2007, 10:08
Как оказалось за время опроса (Topic Link: Pink Floyd - Wish You Here In Moscow 1989 (http://netlab.e2k.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=76691
) проголосовало аж 10 чел.

Так-чта-а-а.... , если вас не шокирует кабанчег
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то ,будем раздавать

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