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Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 19:16
Sheffield Lab - Prime Cuts II
Артист: Sheffield Lab (http://www.townhallrecords.com/cgi-bin/townhall.pl?detail=SL10061
Альбом: Prime Cuts II, 1995
Издатель: Sheffield Lab / 10061-2-M
Жанр: Various Sample
Формат файла: Uncompressed Iso Image File
Ссылка: CD (ed2k://|file|Sheffield%20Lab%20-%20Prime%20Cuts%20II%20uncompressed%20iso%20image%20file.rar|256878872|DC6753C058A31D9DC856AD878C9D9F69|h=6IIH72NFZLKJS6JPY5K35LD4ROUEYNOR|/
Нахождение: eDonkey
Track listing
1. Sweet Georgia Brown - Harry James & His Big Band
2. Schemes And Dreams - Pat Coli
3. Foggy Mountain breakdown - McNeely-Levin- Skinner Band
4. Happy Feet - Freeway Philharmonic
5. I Will Find You There - Michael Ruff
6. Lonely Nights - Clair Marlo
7. Time Will bring You Love - Bill Champlin
8. My Heart Is Offered Still To You - Madrigals Of SBHS
9. Brahms, Rhapsody in E Flat - Lincoln Mayorga
10. Appalachian Spring - The Moscow Philharmonic (Excerpt)

Posted by: yury_usa on 11-11-2007, 19:24
Is there a LOG file?

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 19:31
This is an uncompressed image file .
For the best quality I don't use APE, FLAC, WV ecc...

The image it's only zipped with winrar to reduce final dimension.


Posted by: yury_usa on 11-11-2007, 19:35
QUOTE (ccrl79c0 @ 11-11-2007, 11:31):
This is an uncompressed image file .
For the best quality I don't use APE, FLAC, WV ecc...

The image it's only zipped with winrar to reduce final dimension.
But what tool did you use to obtain WAV? EAC image should have the LOG :hi:

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 19:38
I use Copy Disc to Image file with Nero Burning Rom.
Ivano

Posted by: Alextref on 11-11-2007, 19:45
Какой Wav,какой LOG? там и куя нет,вероятно,один исошник непожатый-а пожатый потом,оно так видать "качественнее".
Впрочем,и на том спасибо,привести в удобоваримый вид-не проблема.
Если СDDB про него знает...

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 19:54
QUOTE (Alextref @ 11-11-2007, 19:45):
Какой Wav,какой LOG? там и куя нет,вероятно,один исошник непожатый-а пожатый потом,оно так видать "качественнее".
Впрочем,и на том спасибо,привести в удобоваримый вид-не проблема.
Если СDDB про него знает...
Excuse me I'm Italian, I understand only a little bit of english

Posted by: yury_usa on 11-11-2007, 21:11
ccrl79c0
please, use EAC next time. And I would strongly recommend you to re-rip this CD also. Non-EAC rips (eg CloneCD, Nero, etc) are not tolerated here :hi:

QUOTE:
For the best quality I don't use APE, FLAC, WV ecc...
I see that you either very ignorant or do not want to learn. All of the above-mentioned are not "fomats" but lossless codecs, which preserve lossless music and help spreading music faster. You can decompress them into WAV and you will not lose a single bit :drag:

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 22:10
QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-11-2007, 21:11):
ccrl79c0
please, use EAC next time. And I would strongly recommend you to re-rip this CD also. Non-EAC rips (eg CloneCD, Nero, etc) are not tolerated here :hi:

QUOTE:
For the best quality I don't use APE, FLAC, WV ecc...
I see that you either very ignorant or do not want to learn. All of the above-mentioned are not "fomats" but lossless codecs, which preserve lossless music and help spreading music faster. You can decompress them into WAV and you will not lose a single bit :drag:
In my audiophile experience the image file is absolutely the best quality solution because there's not a change of original CDDA format!

Yes with WAV you can obtain an uncompressed audio file, but there's however a change of original CDDA format!!

In my experience really lossless codecs don't exists!!
My ears tell me this.


Posted by: yury_usa on 11-11-2007, 22:20
ccrl79c0
What are you talking about? It's the same thing as compressing a text file into zip, and then decompressing it back again. APE/FLAC/WV is essentially the same thing. if you decompress it, you will get WAV which is 100% identical to the original. Ask anyone, if you don't believe me, go on http://SteveHoffman.tv (http://SteveHoffman.tv - the most respected audiophile forum in the world, and ask the same question.

But what surprisess me even more, is that you do not use Exact Audio Copy (EAC). How can you be a true audiophile and not know abou this software? :fear2:

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 11-11-2007, 23:09
Sure I know EAC but I hear most sound difference with this software than an image file.
I can't believe that you don't hear the difference.

I hear difference between two original CDDA of the same performance.

However, there are no problems, if I will have time I will re-rip this CD using EAC.

Posted by: kokiku on 12-11-2007, 00:02
QUOTE (ccrl79c0 @ 11-11-2007, 22:10):
In my experience really lossless codecs don't exists!!
My ears tell me this.
А ведь давно ходят слухи,
что эти всякие паки
верхи и низы режут неимоверно! :diablo:

Posted by: yury_usa on 12-11-2007, 00:16
QUOTE (kokiku @ 11-11-2007, 16:02):
QUOTE (ccrl79c0 @ 11-11-2007, 22:10):
In my experience really lossless codecs don't exists!!
My ears tell me this.
А ведь давно ходят слухи,
что эти всякие паки
верхи и низы режут неимоверно! :diablo:
не верь им... Это тайные агенты Тещи © :diablo: :laugh:

Posted by: Keykey on 12-11-2007, 01:02
QUOTE (ccrl79c0 @ 11-11-2007, 20:10):

QUOTE:
In my experience really lossless codecs don't exists!!
My ears tell me this.

:fear2:

Figments of your imagination. Call it suggestion or whatever you like. It is just impossible: there is no other way :wink:

Posted by: Alextref on 12-11-2007, 01:54
Скачал,распаковал,в эмулятор пихнул,в СDDB заглянул,EACом грабанул,на флаки фубаром по кую покромсал.
Стало можно послушать с удобством.
А диск-то очень даже ничего! По содержанию.
Может,верхи резковаты,но пожалуй,я глючу-96/24 перед этим наслушался... :)

Posted by: base5 on 12-11-2007, 03:24
Hi Ivano,

The main reason to use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is because it rips more secure. What EAC does is read every sector (at least) twice and then compares both readouts with each other. If they're the same, the sector is approved and added to the disc image. If not, EAC will read a few more times and then usually it will find a number of readouts which are the same and use this to add to the image file. It will also mention this in the log file, so you can easily search for the sector in question and listen to it, to check it sounds right and has nog spikes or noise.

The reason for the above is that CD and DVD drives in computers are optimized to read in blocks and not continuously like drives found in stand alone CD players. This means there can be faulty readouts at the beginning or end of the sectors.

As for APE (Monkey Audio) or FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Compression), these are compression formats like ZIP or RAR, but only they're optimized to compress WAV files. It's a lossless compression, so no information is lost at all. You can easily check that by compressing a WAV file with FLAC or APE, decompress it and then compare it with the original file. A lot of programs can do this comparison, but since you already have EAC, you can use the file compare utility in the 'Tools' menu. You'll see that every bit of the original file and the file that was compressed are 100% identical.

The reason to use APE or FLAC instead of ZIP or RAR is simply because APE and FLAC files are smaller and this makes it easier for people with a slower internet connection to download the file, but also people with a faster internet connection will benefit from it, as the file will spread much faster, so there are more sources available to download from.

My remarks above are just meant as constructive criticism to improve this forum, not to complain about your contribution. So as a final remark I'd like to say: "Thank you for sharing your music with us" :D:

Posted by: goka on 12-11-2007, 09:42
QUOTE (Alextref @ 12-11-2007, 01:54):
Скачал,распаковал,в эмулятор пихнул,в СDDB заглянул,EACом грабанул,на флаки фубаром по кую покромсал.
...
в общем случае - это всё может даже быть идентичным, если гарантированно нет ошибок в первоначальном рипе. :drag:

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 12-11-2007, 16:02
QUOTE (base5 @ 12-11-2007, 03:24):
Hi Ivano,

The main reason to use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is because it rips more secure. What EAC does is read every sector (at least) twice and then compares both readouts with each other. If they're the same, the sector is approved and added to the disc image. If not, EAC will read a few more times and then usually it will find a number of readouts which are the same and use this to add to the image file. It will also mention this in the log file, so you can easily search for the sector in question and listen to it, to check it sounds right and has nog spikes or noise.

The reason for the above is that CD and DVD drives in computers are optimized to read in blocks and not continuously like drives found in stand alone CD players. This means there can be faulty readouts at the beginning or end of the sectors.

As for APE (Monkey Audio) or FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Compression), these are compression formats like ZIP or RAR, but only they're optimized to compress WAV files. It's a lossless compression, so no information is lost at all. You can easily check that by compressing a WAV file with FLAC or APE, decompress it and then compare it with the original file. A lot of programs can do this comparison, but since you already have EAC, you can use the file compare utility in the 'Tools' menu. You'll see that every bit of the original file and the file that was compressed are 100% identical.

The reason to use APE or FLAC instead of ZIP or RAR is simply because APE and FLAC files are smaller and this makes it easier for people with a slower internet connection to download the file, but also people with a faster internet connection will benefit from it, as the file will spread much faster, so there are more sources available to download from.

My remarks above are just meant as constructive criticism to improve this forum, not to complain about your contribution. So as a final remark I'd like to say: "Thank you for sharing your music with us" :D:
Many thanks to your words

Posted by: alluneedislove on 15-11-2007, 18:34
Do you have covers?

Posted by: ccrl79c0 on 15-11-2007, 19:08
QUOTE (alluneedislove @ 15-11-2007, 18:34):
Do you have covers?
No at the moment.

I don't have scanner.

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