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 Posted: 08-10-2006, 19:56 (post 1, #661677)

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Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms 1985 SACD
Артист: Dire Straits
Альбом: Brothers In Arms 1985 SACD, 2005
Жанр: Rock & Roll, Album Rock....
Формат файла: SACD - DTS-Audio-wav 5.1 - cue, scans - rar
Ссылка: CD 15 clicks
Нахождение: eDonkey/Kademlia

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Review by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
Brothers in Arms brought the atmospheric, jazz-rock inclinations of Love Over Gold into a pop setting, resulting in a surprise international best-seller. Of course, the success of Brothers in Arms was helped considerably by the clever computer-animated video for "Money for Nothing," a sardonic attack on MTV. But what kept the record selling was Mark Knopfler's increased sense of pop songcraft -- "Money for Nothing" had an indelible guitar riff, "Walk of Life" is a catchy up-tempo boogie variation on "Sultans of Swing," and the melodies of the bluesy "So Far Away" and the down-tempo, Everly Brothers-style "Why Worry" were wistful and lovely. Dire Straits had never been so concise or pop-oriented, and it wore well on them. Though they couldn't maintain that consistency through the rest of the album -- only the jazzy "Your Latest Trick" and the flinty "Ride Across the River" make an impact -- Brothers in Arms remains one of their most focused and accomplished albums, and in its succinct pop sense, it's distinctive within their catalog. [In 2005 Mercury released a 20th anniversary limited edition version of Brothers in Arms in the Hybrid/SACD format.]


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Incredible Sound *****, August 22, 2006
Reviewer: Kristie Hubka
I have a middle of the road high end 5.1 audio system and it came to life with this SACD. The sound quality is magic. I can only hope that I can locate other SACD's out there than can compare in quality of music and recording excellence.


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Awesome SACD 5.1 Surround Sound, July 17, 2006
Reviewer: JEFFREY IHDE (Milwaukee, WI USA)
This quite possibly is the best quality 5.1 surround sound mix I've ever heard. This is the import only SACD 5.1 CD, not to be confused with the DVD-Audio 5.1 edition available in the U.S. Actually one of the reviews posted here appears to be for the DVD-Audio version. Both versions are playable on standard CD players though the DVD-A is a 2 sided disk where you must flip it over to the other side for the standard CD mix. So, with both Hybrid SACD and DVD-A we now have CD's that can be played on any player though you really need to play them on surround sound systems to get the full appreciation of their sound. Otherwise, why buy it? I will say that most hybrid SACD's I've played on standard CD players (automobile) do sound better than their non-SACD versions.
Well, I do have both the SACD and DVD-A versions (just to show my obsession/love for this CD). The first thing to make clear, the SACD version may or may not have used the same audio source mixes used for the DVD-A version, but they are by no means inferior. The 2 versions truly do sound different. Its hard to describe in words how much additional sonic details come out in the SACD version verses the DVD-A. I have an above average system (not top high end) and I'm able to hear sonic details including guitar passages I've never heard before. One listen to the final song, Brothers in Arms is all it takes though there is not a weak moment song-wise or sound-wise on this SACD. As for the DVD-A, it's still good, but on my system I can't draw out the same details that I'm able to on the SACD version. Maybe has something to do with my DVD player being a SONY SACD/DVD combo player? Or, maybe the SACD version is just that much better. I'll leave that for further debate.
The fact that most people have a surround sound DVD system and not many people have a SACD player does mean the DVD-A will be the more popular version purchased. That is a shame as I just don't hear the same level of detail in the DVD-A 5.1 mix (at least on my system). From a playability perspective, I also prefer the SACD over the DVD-A. When you put the DVD-A in your player you will find it defaults to the standard 2 channel mix and requires you to go into the menu and select the 5.1 mix. With the SACD it will automatically detect the 5.1 mix if played in a SACD player. Also, if you have a multi-disc DVD player, once the DVD-A has finished playing it will not automatically move to the next disc in the changer as this SACD will.
So, if you love this CD and have a SACD player, don't hesitate to purchase this one. As for the DVD-A, I've heard better than this one, but I still believe the DVD-A is a worthwhile purchase if you don't have a SACD player as long as you have surround sound stereo DVD system. It will still provide a new level of enjoyment for listening to this classic Dire Straits CD.


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 Gummy Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-10-2006, 00:03 (post 2, #661781)

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Спасибо Большое!
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 Posted: 09-10-2006, 15:25 (post 3, #661957)

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Спасибо!
А может еще и в формате DVD-Audio MLP 5.1 24-96 выложите?
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 Posted: 09-10-2006, 16:39 (post 4, #661980)

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Скорее всего да.
Хотя OlCh почему-то делал рип в
SACD to DVD-Audio
5.1.20-48.mlp
и
Stereo.96-24.mlp.

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рипы SACD в 20/48, мне кажется, что это более реально для 99,9% пользователей

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   Posted: 09-10-2006, 19:28 (post 5, #662039)

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Скорее всего да.
Хотя OlCh почему-то делал рип в
SACD to DVD-Audio
5.1.20-48.mlp
и
Stereo.96-24.mlp.

Одно дело что он говорил и что он релизит! :diablo: kokiku, Ты вон глянь Муссоргского, там по полной программе! :punk: Мне кажеться нужно подходить индивидуально к каждой SACD! Для одной и ДТС подойдёт, а для другой никакого рипа не достаточно - только оригинал!!! :p
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 Posted: 09-10-2006, 20:10 (post 6, #662056)

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QUOTE (Гордый @ 09-10-2006, 20:28)
Одно дело что он говорил и что он релизит! :diablo: kokiku, Ты вон глянь Муссоргского, там по полной программе! :punk:
Тут OlCh промахнулся.
Поэтому я не могу помочь в раздаче, а сам качаю. :D
Ибо есть и 2.0 24/96, и 5.1 16/44 DTS, и 5.1 20/48, :w00t:
а 5.1 24/96 нет! :laugh:
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 Posted: 11-10-2006, 00:52 (post 7, #662634)

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На трекере планируется? :wub: :shuffle:
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 Posted: 11-10-2006, 07:04 (post 8, #662713)

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Я - только если поддержать. :)
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 Posted: 16-10-2006, 20:31 (post 9, #665000)

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QUOTE (Гордый @ 09-10-2006, 17:28)
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Скорее всего да.
Хотя OlCh почему-то делал рип в
SACD to DVD-Audio
5.1.20-48.mlp
и
Stereo.96-24.mlp.

Одно дело что он говорил и что он релизит! kokiku, Ты вон глянь Муссоргского, там по полной программе! :punk:
дык ошибочка вышла, потому как убежден что 5.1 20/48 для 99,999999 в периоде % это то что надо. и оптимально для раздачи, учитывая сколько САЦД-рипов скопилось... и сколько еще будет! :rolleyes:
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 Posted: 16-10-2006, 20:38 (post 10, #665003)

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QUOTE (gene @ 10-10-2006, 22:52)
На трекере планируется? :wub: :shuffle:
угадай с двух раз! :p:
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 Posted: 16-10-2006, 21:06 (post 11, #665022)

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QUOTE (OlCh @ 16-10-2006, 12:38)
QUOTE (gene @ 10-10-2006, 22:52)
На трекере планируется? :wub: :shuffle:
угадай с двух раз! :p:
Угадал с первого раза. Спасибо за подробный ответ. :)
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 Posted: 16-10-2006, 21:57 (post 12, #665057)

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Если кто-нибудь из скачавших выложит - то я поддержу.
А так:
- нет у меня прав релизёра в торренте,
- мне и в муле не продыхнуть от релизов,
- и не всё же мне перетаскивать релизы из торрента в осла,
пусть кто-нибудь и "наооборотным" процессом займётся!

Хотя бы иногда! :)
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 Posted: 17-10-2006, 10:12 (post 13, #665218)

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кстати, меня очень интересуют мнения о качестве мультипульти-звука :)
этот SACD всё ж с некоторыми особенностями :wink:
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   Posted: 17-10-2006, 15:39 (post 14, #665303)

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Докладываю! Звук очень даже хорош, одного по-моему нет - это отчётливой бас-гитары. Я привык на DVD-A слушать партию бас-гитары :rolleyes: каждый имеет свои слабости... :laugh: Но это OlCh не виноват, микс не нравиться и кто его делал. А может Алан Парсонс - тогда не удивительно. :diablo:
Бросается в глаза уровень записи:
Фронты -6 dB
Центр 0 dB
Задние -30 dB
Бас -20 dB

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 Posted: 17-10-2006, 20:26 (post 15, #665433)

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QUOTE (Гордый @ 17-10-2006, 13:39)
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одного по-моему нет - это отчётливой бас-гитары...
Бросается в глаза уровень записи:
Фронты -6 dB
Центр 0 dB
Задние -30 dB
Бас -20 dB

:fear2:
записываю 1:1, так что звиняйте...
а чем замерял то? и что и где собственно? :w00t:
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