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Артист: |
Genesis |
Альбом: |
Genesis Live, 1973 |
Издатель: |
Virgin/Charisma - EMI Swindon 1985 / CLACD 1 |
Жанр: |
Progressive Rock |
Формат файла: |
EAC 0.99pb4, FLAC 1.2.1 (-8 -V), Full Scans (600 dpi) |
Ссылка: |
CD |
Нахождение: |
eDonkey/Kademlia |
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TRACKLIST | 1. Watcher Of The Skies . . . . . . . .8:35 2. Get 'Em Out By Friday. . . . . . . .9:19 3. The Return Of The Giant Hogweed. . .8:19 4. The Musical Box . . . . . . . . . .10:59 5. The Knife. . . . . . . . . . . . . .9:47
| From http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=149728QUOTE | There appear to be FOUR (?) original masterings of this title.
When clips were posted, preferences were expressed for both the Nimbus/Atlantic and Sanyo/Sonopress 2 versions (as Jeff pointed out, "this is really a question of taste"). Despite forum member Zal Schreiber recalling doing mastering for this title, both chiagerald and Jeff posted figures for the Atlantic disc that match the V/C Nimbus, so it remains unclear whether his version ever went into production.
Black Elk’s early (no barcode) UK copy lacks any indication of where it was made, but looks like a PDO Blackburn disc. Strangely, it matches a disc made by Sonopress in Germany.
There are TWO Sonopress editions!
Version 1 [Dr. M] - V/C Nimbus : 82.8% - 88.9% - 100.0% - 94.2% - 94.4% [chia] - V/C EMI Uden, NL : 82.8% - 88.9% - 100.0% - 94.2% - 94.4% [chia] - Atlantic WEA, US : 82.8% - 88.9% - 100.0% - 94.2% - 94.4% NOTE: On the V/C Nimbus, in track 2 (Get 'Em Out by Friday) at around 9:12 before the applause fades, the sound stutters in the right channel. No one has reported this on any other early CD edition, so it is unknown whether this is a mastering error, a glitch on a particular pressing, or something actually on the master tape. (The DE cross-fades to the next track at this point; this could be a clue that it was an issue with the master tape that needed to be ‘fixed’).
Version 2 [BE] - V/C PDO, UK (?) : 96.7% - 100.0% - 95.4% - 100.0% - 100.0% [Dr. M] - V/C Sonopress 1 : 96.7% - 100.0% - 95.4% - 100.0% - 100.0%
Version 3 [LP6] - V/C Sanyo, Japan : 100.0% - 100.0% - 91.3% - 86.5% - 99.7%
Version 4 [Jeff] - V/C Sonopress 2 : 93.4% - 94.0% - 85.5% - 81.1% - 93.3% NOTE: Dr. M has suggested that Versions 3 and 4 may be level-shifted versions of each other. This is still awaiting confirmation.
After samples were posted, Raf was able to determine the following:
"The V/C Nimbus and the Atlantic are definitely identical, and they both have that ‘stuttering’ fadeout at the end of this track. It sounds good, though.
The V/C Sanyo Japan is a different mastering and does not have the fadeout anomaly on Track 2. And yes, it sounds good too." |
SPOILER! | CODE | Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008
EAC extraction logfile from 9. November 2008, 1:15
Genesis / Live
Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GSA-4160B Adapter: 0 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : No
Read offset correction : 667 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes Used interface : Installed external ASPI interface Gap handling : Appended to previous track
Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 128 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Programmi\FLAC\flac.exe Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%x" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "ALBUMARTIST=%v" -T "ALBUM ARTIST=%v" -T "COMMENT=EAC V0.99 prebeta 4, Secure Mode, Test & Copy, Accurat
TOC of the extracted CD
Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 8:34.40 | 0 | 38589 2 | 8:34.40 | 9:18.55 | 38590 | 80494 3 | 17:53.20 | 8:18.65 | 80495 | 117909 4 | 26:12.10 | 10:59.25 | 117910 | 167359 5 | 37:11.35 | 9:47.08 | 167360 | 211392
Track 1
Filename C:\CDRip\01 - Watcher of the Skies.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00
Peak level 82.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC C6F7226E Copy CRC C6F7226E Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 3) [68321893], AccurateRip returned [F6183845] Copy OK
Track 2
Filename C:\CDRip\02 - Get 'em Out by Friday.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.02
Peak level 88.9 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 50BCFB07 Copy CRC 50BCFB07 Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [F6314872], AccurateRip returned [65259781] Copy OK
Track 3
Filename C:\CDRip\03 - The Return of the Giant Hogweed.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:01.00
Peak level 100.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC E9D71764 Copy CRC E9D71764 Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [6FC132F4], AccurateRip returned [124D197E] Copy OK
Track 4
Filename C:\CDRip\04 - The Musical Box.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:01.52
Peak level 94.2 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 10D841DA Copy CRC 10D841DA Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [BB76D4C4], AccurateRip returned [EDBDA229] Copy OK
Track 5
Filename C:\CDRip\05 - The Knife.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:01.37
Peak level 94.4 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC C19FD0F1 Copy CRC C19FD0F1 Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [1433CDA8], AccurateRip returned [11099C1B] Copy OK
No tracks could be verified as accurate You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database
No errors occurred
End of status report |
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SPOILER! | CODE | [Disc ID: 00096544-002c2e68-360b0205] Track [ CRC ] Status 01 [68321893] (00/03) No matches 02 [f6314872] (00/04) No matches 03 [6fc132f4] (00/04) No matches 04 [bb76d4c4] (00/04) No matches 05 [1433cda8] (00/04) No matches Offsetted by 1545: 01 [f6183845] (03/03) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1 02 [65259781] (04/04) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1 03 [124d197e] (04/04) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1 04 [edbda229] (04/04) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1 05 [11099c1b] (04/04) Accurately ripped as in pressing(s) #1 |
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