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 Posted: 12-11-2006, 22:55 (post 1, #676091)

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Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts 1971
Артист: Van Der Graaf Generator
Альбом: Pawn Hearts 1971, 2005
Жанр: Prog-Rock/ Art Rock, Experimental
Формат файла: eac-cue-log-ape-scans-ape.iso
Ссылка 1: ISO 31 clicks
Ссылка 2: APE 31 clicks
Нахождение: eDonkey/Kademlia


cue & log tagged within, scans are inside

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Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts
2005 Remastered


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Review by Bruce Eder
Van Der Graaf Generator's third album, Pawn Hearts was also its second most popular; at one time this record was a major King Crimson cult item due to the presence of Robert Fripp on guitar, but Pawn Hearts has more to offer than that. The opening track, "Lemmings," calls to mind early Gentle Giant, with its eerie vocal passages (including harmonies) set up against extended sax, keyboard, and guitar-driven instrumental passages, and also with its weird keyboard and percussion interlude, though this band is also much more contemporary in its focus than Gentle Giant. Peter Hammill vocalizes in a more traditional way on "Man-Erg," against shimmering organ swells and Guy Evans' very expressive drumming, before the song goes off on a tangent by way of David Jackson's saxes and some really weird time signatures -- plus some very pretty acoustic and electric guitar work by Hammill himself and Fripp. The monumental "Plague of Lighthouse Keepers," taking up an entire side of the LP, shows the same kind of innovation that characterized Crimson's first two albums, but without the discipline and restraint needed to make the music manageable. The punning titles of the individual sections of this piece (which may have been done for the same reason that Crimson gave those little subtitles to its early extended tracks, to protect the full royalties for the composer) only add to the confusion. As for the piece itself, it features enough virtuoso posturing by everyone (especially drummer Guy Evans) to fill an Emerson, Lake & Palmer album of the same era, with a little more subtlety and some time wasted between the interludes. The 23-minute conceptual work could easily have been trimmed to, say, 18 or 19 minutes without any major sacrifices, which doesn't mean that what's here is bad, just not as concise as it might've been. But the almost operatic intensity of the singing and the overall performance also carries you past the stretches that don't absolutely need to be here. The band was trying for something midway between King Crimson and Genesis, and came out closer to the former, at least instrumentally. Hammill's vocals are impassioned and involving, almost like an acting performance, similar to Peter Gabriel's singing with Genesis, but the lack of any obviously cohesive ideas in the lyrics makes this more obscure and obtuse than any Genesis release.


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   Posted: 13-11-2006, 20:56 (post 2, #676393)

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Очень понравились бонусы, :punk: без них было бы не так сочно... :D: СПАСИБО!
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 11:19 (post 3, #676583)

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QUOTE (Гордый @ 13-11-2006, 20:56)
Очень понравились бонусы, :punk: без них было бы не так сочно... :D: СПАСИБО!
Да, бонусы действительно очень хороши!

Кстати, если у кого есть H to He.. remastered 2005 - было бы неплохо продолжить это коллекцию! Там тоже бонусы, говорят, зашибись! :-)
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 11:30 (post 4, #676591)

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чего то никто не качает.. запросов по нулям пока :drag:
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   Posted: 14-11-2006, 14:31 (post 5, #676661)

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чего то никто не качает.. запросов по нулям пока :drag:
yury_usa, ты уже опоздал! Показывает уже 7 Источников! :punk:
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 16:54 (post 6, #676713)

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QUOTE (yury_usa @ 14-11-2006, 11:30)
чего то никто не качает.. запросов по нулям пока :drag:
Может, до тебя очередь запросов не доходит?:) У меня со свистом качается - за 4 часа почти 200 метров. То же с обоими Gentle Giant было. Все бы релизы так сливались...
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 21:32 (post 7, #676840)

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QUOTE (yury_usa @ 14-11-2006, 09:30)
чего то никто не качает.. запросов по нулям пока :drag:
я так думаю - у тебя хеш другой, не тот вариант :wink:
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 21:42 (post 8, #676848)

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я говорю, с меня никто не качает пока :)

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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 22:10 (post 9, #676860)

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правильный хеш :w00t: странно :drag:
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 Posted: 14-11-2006, 22:48 (post 10, #676887)

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QUOTE (yury_usa @ 14-11-2006, 21:42)
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я говорю, с меня никто не качает пока :)
Так вот и я говорю, что кто-то очень щедрый раздает с таким свистом, что осел забывает опрашивать остальных раздатчиков :diablo:

У меня уже приехал. Щазз дойду до ослокомпа и буду вспоминать юность :rolleyes:
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 Posted: 15-01-2008, 18:57 (post 11, #811568)

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А на этом издании часом нет pre-emph?
А то что-то очень режуще-звонкие верха. Особенно на вокальных "ц", "с".

Да и в целом звук не радует. Может у кого есть неремастированное издание, чтобы сравнить?
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 Posted: 15-01-2008, 19:31 (post 12, #811571)

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Да вроде нет там pre-emphasis!
Щас не найду... посмотрю куй.
Вроде играет нормально, тока компрессии много...:-(
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 Posted: 15-01-2008, 19:52 (post 13, #811573)

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В куе разумеется нет флага pre. Бывает, что его забывают прописать.
Но может это так сверхкомпрессия сказалась...
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 Posted: 15-01-2008, 20:09 (post 14, #811578)

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REM GENRE "Progressive Rock"
REM DATE 1971
REM DISCID 650F6F08
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb3"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
TITLE "Pawn Hearts (Remastered)"
FILE "Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts (Remastered).wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Lemmings (Including Cog)"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Man Erg"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 11:37:02
INDEX 01 11:39:02
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 21:59:15
INDEX 01 22:04:15
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Theme One [Original Mix - Bonus]"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 45:10:65
INDEX 01 45:16:65
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "W [First Version - Bonus]"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 48:27:67
INDEX 01 48:31:67
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Angle Of Incidents [Bonus]"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 53:32:20
INDEX 01 53:35:20
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Ponker's Theme [Bonus]"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 58:19:36
INDEX 01 58:23:36
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Diminutions [Bonus]"
PERFORMER "Van Der Graaf Generator"
FLAGS DCP
INDEX 00 59:47:56
INDEX 01 59:51:56
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 Posted: 15-01-2008, 20:10 (post 15, #811581)

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FLAGS DCP!
Что это такое правда не знаю! Но есть!
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