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Артист: Genesis Альбом: A Trick of the Tail, 1976 Издатель: Atco (Atlantic) Victor Japan / 38101-2 Жанр: Progressive Rock, Art Rock Формат файла: EAC, WAV Pack, CUE, LOG, Covers, Embedded album art, ISO Ссылка 1: CD 1 143 clicks Ссылка 2: CD 2 Нахождение: eDonkey/Torrent Примечание: одна из лучших версий по звуку!

TRACKLIST

1. Dance on a Volcano 2. Entangled 3. Squonk 4. Mad Man Moon 5. Robbery, Assault and Battery 6. Ripples 7. A Trick of the Tail 8. Los Endos

SPOILER (EAC Log)

EAC extraction logfile from 14. April 2007, 11:09 for CD Genesis / A Trick of the Tail (Japanese Victor) Used drive : PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W4012S Adapter: 0 ID: 4 Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache Read offset correction : 98 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes Used output format : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe (User Defined Encoder) 320 kBit/s Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" -T "comment=EAC 0.95 b4 secure / FLAC 1.1.4 q8 / Gap Detection Met Other options : Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Track 1 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\01 - Dance on a Volcano.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:02.37 Peak level 89.1 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 529FFE4E Copy CRC 529FFE4E Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\02 - Entangled.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:01.17 Peak level 89.9 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 66758A29 Copy CRC 66758A29 Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\03 - Squonk.wav Peak level 89.1 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC BD02A943 Copy CRC BD02A943 Copy OK Track 4 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\04 - Mad Mad Moon.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:02.13 Peak level 87.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC D5E941A5 Copy CRC D5E941A5 Copy OK Track 5 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\05 - Robbery, Assault & Battery.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:02.10 Peak level 87.0 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC 3D54BBDE Copy CRC 3D54BBDE Copy OK Track 6 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\06 - Ripples.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:01.33 Peak level 87.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 44ABB873 Copy CRC 44ABB873 Copy OK Track 7 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\07 - A Trick of the Tail.wav Pre-gap length 0:00:01.65 Peak level 87.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC B9EED6D6 Copy CRC B9EED6D6 Copy OK Track 8 Filename C:\Documents and Settings\daedalus\Desktop\scratch\Genesis - A Trick of the Tail (1976) [FLAC] {Japanese Victor}\08 - Los Endos.wav Peak level 89.1 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC D803D1F1 Copy CRC D803D1F1 Copy OK No errors occured End of status report

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thanks to the original releaser!



Review (AMG)
After Peter Gabriel departed for a solo career, Genesis embarked on a long journey to find a replacement, only to wind back around to their drummer, Phil Collins, as a replacement. With Collins as their new frontman, the band decided not to pursue the stylish, jagged postmodernism of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway -- a move that Gabriel would do in his solo career -- and instead returned to the English eccentricity of Selling England by the Pound for its next effort, A Trick of the Tail. In almost every respect, this feels like a truer sequel to Selling England by the Pound than Lamb; after all, that double album was obsessed with modernity and nightmare, whereas this album returns the group to the fanciful fairy tale nature of its earlier records. Also, Genesis were moving away from the barbed pop of the first LP and returning to elastic numbers that showcased their instrumental prowess, and they sounded more forceful and unified as a band than they had since Foxtrot. Not that this album is quite as memorable as Foxtrot or Selling England, largely because its songs aren't as immediate or memorable: apart from "Dance on a Volcano," this is about the sound of the band playing, not individual songs, and it succeeds on that level quite wildly -- to the extent that it proved to longtime fans that Genesis could possibly thrive without its former leader in tow.

QUOTE

The Atco is derived from the V/C Nimbus, but is not a simple level shift, as Raf's notes below show. Raf wrote: "The V/C and Atco CDs of Trick are derived from the same digital source. Barring the issues described below, the two cancel out completely when the levels are matched. Are they the same mastering, technically speaking? You tell me! There's been a bit of monkeying done here. First up, the volume levels: Tracks 1 and 3 = the Atco is 0.8 dB louder compared to the V/C Track 2 = the Atco is 1.8 dB louder Tracks 4, 5, 6 and 7 = the Atco is 0.4 dB louder Track 8 = the Atco is 1.4 dB quieter Tracks 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 on the Atco have clipped peaks. I was going to do a detailed listing, but there are too many. I counted three clipped peaks on Dance on a Volcano and eleven on Squonk before I gave up. To complicate matters more, track 8 is clipped on the V/C.

Я дико извиняюсь перед поклонниками Genesis-a, но может быть мне кто-нибудь объяснит: разве включенный Overread на PLEXTOR-ах (на любом приводе поддерживающем эту функцию) не является 100% гарантией неправильного рипа, в котором можно забыть про оффсеты, CRC, AccurateRip и даже размер WAV-файла будет отличаться от рипа правильного?

This post has been edited by nbb1967 on 17-06-2008, 20:06

Можно поподробнее? Разве это не должно вести, наоборот, к повышению точности рипа?

This post has been edited by Crassimo on 17-06-2008, 20:38

Я еще раз извиняюсь, возможно мой вопрос следствие неверного понимания (толкования) термина Overread. К сожалению, у меня нет возможности сделать и сравнить два рипа с одного диска на приводе поддерживающем Overread (c ним и без него) - мой NEC эту функцию не поддерживает, увы. А представление (возможно, не верное) основано на сравнении чужих рипов, сделанных с Overread-ом и без, и ощутимо отличающихся друг от друга размером WAV-a, количеством тишины в начале и конце...

nbb1967
по моему пофиг, если только в начале или в конце диска ошибки.

Послушал, сравнил. На слух вроде звучит поинтересней чем Virgin/Charisma EMI Swindon CDSCD 4001. У кого какие мнения?