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 Posted: 31-08-2006, 22:27 (post 1, #647765)

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Creedence Clearwater Revival - Willy And The Poor Boys 1969
Артист: Creedence Clearwater Revival
Альбом: Willy And The Poor Boys 1969, 2002
Жанр: Rock... global music!
Формат файла: MLP Stereo 24bit/96kHz, covers..-rar
Ссылка 1: MLP 148 clicks
Ссылка 2: REST 108 clicks
Нахождение: eDonkey/Kademlia

с подачи коллеги нашего kLimm, рип его рук творение :punk: :

and thanks to my other friends :)

Creedence Clearwater Revival - 1969 Willy And The Poorboys
2002 SACD. Steve Hoffman's Remaster


Product Description
Willy and the Poor Boys
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Hybrid Stereo SACD (Analogue Productions CAPP 8397 SA)

This is a Hybrid Super Audio CD playable on both regular and Super Audio CD players.
Opening up with the feel-good, down-home groove of the hit "Down on the Corner" and featuring all-out, belligerent roots rock like "Fortunate Son" and loose, soul-drenched instrumentals like "Side Of The Road," WILLY AND THE POOR BOYS is sensational from start to finish. Throughout CCR's brief career, their sound was a musical evocation of a mythic rural South, and WILLY AND THE POOR BOYS is arguably the most Southern-sounding of all their records. Even though this ten-song album is padded out with cover versions of such folk-blues standards as "Cotton Fields" and "The Midnight Special," John and brother Tom Fogerty's ragged electric guitar playing and the minimalist bass and drum work of Stu Cook and Doug Clifford make these well-known songs sound like Creedence originals.


to DVD-Audio 2.0 24bit/96kHz MLP
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Review by FivePointOne April 7, 2005
Finally, CCR that doesn't have that distorted treble sound. Who'd have thought CCR could sound warm? The separation in this stereo SACD is great. Another fantastic job of SACD mastering by Analogue Productions.

This was CCR's 4th album and has CCR's typical mix of relaxed pickin' songs, pop hits and raging fury. My favorite is "Effigy," most recently covered by the late great band Uncle Tupelo, which closes out this SACD at 6-1/2 minutes. There's something Fogerty does with his guitar string that sounds so foreign--"Who we burnin'...who we burnin'...[braaooong!]..in effigy"--that makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. It never sounded this way on the redbook!



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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 12:24 (post 16, #654411)

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QUOTE (1755isla @ 17-09-2006, 10:14)
- When in the original long *.mlp file we have a track mixed with the next...
sorry, what is "a track mixed with the next"? :help: time in CCR-Willy.And.The.Poor.Boys.SACD.Stereo.to.DVD.Audio.2.0..cue is't OK? :fear2:
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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 12:38 (post 17, #654416)

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Hello, Olch:
01.- First I make double click over the long file (MLP). Chrome accept this file and ...
02.- When I go to make the track points in Chrome, I enter the time who is in the *.cue in every new track point.
03.- But between Poorboy Shuffle and Fellin' Blue, the player (DENON 1920) makes a little pause and Feelin' blue starts with a little rest of the previous track. The same thing ocurrs in WinDVD.

So, what's wrong?

Thanks in advance for your support,
1755isla. :(
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 OlCh Member is Offline
 Posted: 17-09-2006, 12:52 (post 18, #654419)

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please waiting :)
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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 13:23 (post 19, #654427)

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QUOTE (1755isla @ 17-09-2006, 10:38)
between Poorboy Shuffle and Fellin' Blue, the player (DENON 1920) makes a little pause and Feelin' blue starts with a little rest of the previous track
yes, it is't good, it is problem :( sorry :rolleyes:

I make and post FIX today :)
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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 22:46 (post 20, #654592)

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Hello again Olch:

I know the intention when you post in *.mlp format: To find more speed in downloads. But it seems to me a bug in the proccess. To use the "New Track Point" becomes a challenge when we can to manage tracks united, just like happens between "Poorboy Shuffle" and "Feelin' Blue".

But if we can -and we can- to post the result of ripping in individual tracks and in *.wav 24/96 or higher format, we opens the doors to authoring DVD-Video in this resolution. So, DVDLab Pro becomes the perfect solution. With their property "Audio Only Tittle", we can make a perfect DVD-Video (Like in early 2000 makes Chesky Records and Classic Records, before the cut to this format done by the industrie). In this kind of authoring, the cut that Chrome introduce, can't happens. I have made lots of these authoring with tracks like the two mentioned.

If this words can help everybody to find an alternative to *.mlp long file, use their content to make experiments about.

Sorry if molesting. Thanks to all in there,
1755isla. :(

This post has been edited by 1755isla on 17-09-2006, 22:48
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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 23:01 (post 21, #654597)

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well, *.wav, DVDLab Pro, DVD-Video are good to STEREO, only to stereo-sound :(
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 Posted: 17-09-2006, 23:11 (post 22, #654606)

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QUOTE (1755isla @ 17-09-2006, 20:46)
But it seems to me a bug in the proccess.
yes, in the proccess converting DSD to WAV :(

I edit this WAV now, created new MLP without bug, make PARs 20mb...50mb...100mb...150mb... and can't repair old MLP! :inv1: :fu:
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 Posted: 19-09-2006, 21:40 (post 23, #655387)

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Hello Olch:
I don't know the proccess from DSD to WAV, but I think this must be in analog dominion. You must to extract the analog wave from your SACD player and then you introduces this wave in a record program in your PC at a 24/96 sampling rate or higher.
If this is like I think, don't have any loss in the original signal?

If the proccess is another, do you want to tell me how-to?

Thanks a lot. I have a lot of music and I can to post if you will...
1755isla. :help:
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 Posted: 19-09-2006, 22:11 (post 24, #655405)

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QUOTE (1755isla @ 19-09-2006, 19:40)
Hello Olch:
I don't know the proccess from DSD to WAV, but I think this must be in analog dominion. You must to extract the analog wave from your SACD player and then you introduces this wave in a record program in your PC at a 24/96 sampling rate or higher. Yes, it is! :punk:
If this is like I think, don't have any loss in the original signal? DSD format is 1-bit/2.8442Mhz! :inv1: :lol:

If the proccess is another, do you want to tell me how-to?

Thanks a lot. I have a lot of music and I can to post if you will...
1755isla. :help:
please tell me what is your lot of music :D
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 Posted: 27-09-2006, 20:42 (post 25, #657013)

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Hello Olch:
Sorry for the slow answering. I've hard work and sometimes I can't to open the PC.
About the music, I have Derek & The Dominos (SACD), Santana (Shaman and Supernatural in DVD-A), Yes (Magnification in DVD-Audio), Yes (DVD Symphonic Yes) The Allman Brothers Band (Live at the Beacon DVD), Talking Heads (Brick in DVD-Audio Vol. 1/2), Eagles (DVD Hell Freezes Over/The Farewell I Tour double sided double DVD), Eagles (Hotel California DVD-Audio), Fleetwood Mac (Rumours DVD-Audio), The Corrs (DVD-Audio), Queen (A Night At The Opera Dual Special Edition 30th Anniversary DVD), Terry Evans (Blues For Thought DVD-Video in Stereo 24/96), Eric Clapton (One More Car... DVD/ 24 Nights DVD/ Guitar Festival Double DVD/ Chronicles DVD)... and many more.

About the Willy, the trouble still there. And not appears in "Santana - Abraxas".
Best sounding copy I've heard ever.

And at last a technical question:

I like the *.wav format for a few of options, but specially for that ones: When we extract the sound in 24/96 or higher, we can open a good editor of sound and cut-off the DC Offset wich appears in the extraction proccess. Do you think about this when you extract the sound from the SACD in analog manner?

Thanks a lot to you and the others formers of this forum.
Sincerelly,
1755isla. :help:
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 Posted: 22-11-2006, 20:48 (post 26, #680150)

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может кто-нить знает, использовал ли Стив новый материал для ремастеринга SACD? просто до этого оно же выходило в DCC Gold Серии :rolleyes:
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 Posted: 22-11-2006, 21:05 (post 27, #680155)

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QUOTE (yury_usa @ 22-11-2006, 20:48)
может кто-нить знает, использовал ли Стив новый материал для ремастеринга SACD? просто до этого оно же выходило в DCC Gold Серии :rolleyes:
Новый материал - нет!
Те же Original Unequalised Master Mixes engineered by Russ Gary (кстати тоже член форума stevehoffman.tv)! :-)
Просто другой тракт мастеринга - минимальная цепь - Studer A80 (Kevin Gray modified) - EMM Analogue to DSD Converters - Sonoma DSD Recorder!
Если обратишь внимание, то даже между песнями на этом диске нет перерывов - лента как идет так и идет!

Короче - прямее некуда! Поэтому и звук такой чудный!

Эх, ну почему у других руки чешутся EQ ручки покрутить?! :-(

This post has been edited by runo on 22-11-2006, 21:06
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 Posted: 22-11-2006, 21:07 (post 28, #680158)

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понятно, а то я думал может Willy And The Poorboys DCC Gold прикупить, красиво смотриться :)
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   Posted: 22-11-2006, 21:11 (post 29, #680159)

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Но они отличаются по звучанию! Какой больше понравится - вопрос!
SACD это просто честная реплика мастера, а DCC - там немного лоска, он помягче, короче EQ немного добавлено.

Вот здесь можно подробней почитать о качестве оригинальных записей Криденсов, а так же как и чего Стив с ними делал:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=75721&highlight=Russ+Gary

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=398&highlight=Russ+Gary

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=3227&highlight=Russ+Gary

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=48626&highlight=CCR+SACDs

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=156&highlight=Mastering+CCR+Hoffman

This post has been edited by runo on 22-11-2006, 21:41
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 Posted: 22-11-2006, 21:52 (post 30, #680180)

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А что там за помеха примерно 24 и 28 килогерц?
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