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 Mussorgsky-Pictures... & Mountain - NSO of Ukraine-Theodore Kuchar, 2004 SACD 5.1 to DVD-Audio 5.1 24bit/96kHz MLP |
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Posted: 07-10-2006, 22:56
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заготовил диск Гордый - большое ему и другим друзьям спасибо  Modest Mussorgsky - Pictures at an Exhibition & Night on the Bare Mountain National Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine - Theodore Kuchar 2004 SACD 5.1 to DVD-Audio 5.1 24bit/96kHz MLP Product Description Mussorgsky’s 1874 suite Pictures at an Exhibition has proved perhaps the most popular of all the composer’s works, both in its original version for piano and in the colorful orchestral version of Ravel presented here. This recording also presents two versions of the orchestral favorite Night on the Bare Mountain, an orchestral witches’ sabbath.  Occasional superficiality; deep, spacious sound, August 6, 2005 Reviewer: Leslie Richford (Lower Saxony, Germany) Modest Mussorgsky (1839 - 1881) was, in his youth, something of a dandy, but after accepting a government post he began drinking, and his early death was the result of an alcohol-induced fit of epilepsy. When not suffering from the effects of dissipation, he had a reputation as an excellent pianist, but as a composer he was a self-taught amateur who "imbibed" the nationalistic influence of Balakirev and developed a highly personalised style. His chief completed works appear to have been the opera "Boris Godunov" and the piano solo version of "Pictures of an Exhibition", a tribute to the recently deceased painter Viktor Hartmann. At his untimely death he left two unfinished operas, "Sorochintsy Fair" and "Khovanshchina", a number of smaller piano works and several versions (both for piano and for orchestra) of the "Night on Bare Mountain". It was his associate Rimsky-Korsakov who prepared much of this material for publication, and this explains how there come to be two versions of "Night on Bare Mountain" on this recording: the well-known version is Rimsky's smoothed-out re-working, while the version here labelled "original" is, in fact, one of Mussorgsky's somewhat crude attempts to orchestrate the work he had originally conceived for piano solo. The "Pictures at an Exhibition" are well worth hearing in their original form for piano solo, but have become most popular in the orchestrated version by Maurice Ravel (there are other orchestrations, but none has ever gained the popularity of Ravel's congenial edition). Comparing this new Naxos recording by the National Symphony Orchestra of the Ukraine with the earlier Naxos version from Slovakia, directed by Indian conductor Daniel Nazareth, it is highly obvious that there have been great technical advances over the last fifteen years or so. The new Ukrainian version is recorded with much more depth and clarity, and the brass is allowed more natural volume. The Ukrainian tempi seem to be a little faster than those of their Slovakian colleagues, which can, on occasion, lead to the impression of superficiality. I listened to this CD (not the SACD version) on three different systems and was impressed, once again, with the fact that Naxos recordings appear to react very sensitively to the equipment used to play them. By far the best impression was given when sitting at the "sweet spot", the apex of an isoseles triangle formed by the two stereo loudspeakers and the listener. (I had my speakers placed approximately 275 centimetres apart.) Here there was a real depth and spaciousness to the recording that made listening a great pleasure. The percussion sounded incredibly real, the instruments were clearly positioned, and every detail could be heard even at low volume. On a normal headphone system (using a special headphone amplifier and good-quality headphones), I felt that the advantages of depth and spaciousness that could be heard via loudspeakers had receded and that the merging sound tended to emphasize the element of superficiality mentioned above. But a combination of a good CD player, a headphone amp and an old but excellent electrostatic headphone system was able to restore the clarity and depth I had noted in front of speakers. In conclusion, I would say that this is a fine recording which occasionally suffers from the Ukrainians' tendency to gloss over some of the magnificent depths of this music. Heard on a fine stereo loudspeaker system, it can still give much pleasure.   Fell in love all over again, June 19, 2004 Reviewer: John Smyth (Sacramento, CA United States) Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition, (orch. Ravel) Night on Bald Mountain, original and Rimsky's Golitsin's Exile from Khovanchina Hopak from Sorochinsky Fair Wow. I didn't think I could get excited while listening to Pics at an Ex ever again, but the National Symphony Orchestra of the Ukraine turns in a vivid performance. From the deliciously unhomogenized oboe, to the earthy but warm strings, to the overly-earnest percussion section...it was a delight all the way through. (Don't tell anyone, but usually I move ahead to the Hut and Gate. One of the many striking moments was how splashy Ravel's writing for bells, gong and cymbals sounds in the last quiet run before the final statement of the Great Gate theme; it was an unusually colorful, intense and exciting build up. The heaving string writing in Bydlo comes off particulary sad and burdensome, as the cart lumbers along. Lighter moments for winds are vividly characterized. Had enough of Night on Bald Mountain? You get two versions here: Rimsky's correction, and Mussy's original. I like both, though my favorite alternative being the one with chorus, as it sounds the most errie of all. (Abbado/Sony, I believe.) Kuchar and the Ukraine make them sound freshly-minted. If you think you had no romance left for this music, it got me goin' again. Once again the SACD recording, (I opted for the 2-channel layer), intoxicates the ear in a way that PCM never did for me, though I never would have known when PCM was all there was. "Relaxed" is the best way I could decribe the sound, for what it's worth. John Smyth Sac, CA 
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 14:29
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The Ace of Spades Group: Members Posts: 727 Warn:0%
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OlCh , файл с первой ссылки после переименования в рар выдаёт - ошибка в архиве или неизвесный формат !   |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 17:14
(post 3, #758226)
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Junior Group: Members Posts: 71 Warn:40% 
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Фу Г... всплыло.Конверсионки по аналоговому входу-выходу надо вообще удалять из этого раздела!  |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 17:25
(post 4, #758229)
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меломан Group: Prestige Posts: 18022 Warn:0%
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maniac_of_noise Все же лучше, чем стерео, если нравится многоканалку слушать  |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 18:18
(post 5, #758236)
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Mergers & Acquisitions Group: News makers Posts: 1501 Warn:0%
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Да ладно. Наше стерео не задушишь не убьешь |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 19:15
(post 6, #758258)
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Advanced Group: Members Posts: 274 Warn:0%
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Давайте не страдать фигней! Даже не будем спорить на тему. что из чего делается. Так или сяк. Аналог - PCM - DSD, PCM - DSD.... Сами лейлблы порою в этом вопросе сильно грешат... Если рипали с SACD по аналогу нормальным конвертером и звучит ярко и неплохо, то нет проблем (другого выхода и нету). Бывает так, что умудряются даже DSD в PCM конвертировать в домашних условиях и получается полначя лажа. А вот иногда SACD через аналог цифруют на нормальных аппаратах и звук получается весьма ярким.  |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 21:10
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риполов-любитель Group: News makers Posts: 12604 Warn:0%
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мнение иметь, конечно, можно, а хамить - низззя. потому в звании лейтенанта отправляешься на тройку дней для начала в группу только читателей. |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 21:13
(post 8, #758287)
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риполов-любитель Group: News makers Posts: 12604 Warn:0%
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формат файла - MLP - сжатый безпотерный многоканальный звук |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 22:14
(post 9, #758301)
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The Ace of Spades Group: Members Posts: 727 Warn:0%
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Понял , Спасибо  |
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Posted: 15-06-2007, 22:46
(post 10, #758305)
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Винил он и в Африке винил Group: News makers Posts: 928 Warn:0%
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Я Хилари Ханн тоже с SACD, по аналогу перегонял, правдо стерео дорожку, так получилось гораздо лучше сд слоя, такое ощущение что сд и сасд делались совершенно разными людьми, с разных источников |
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Posted: 21-06-2007, 10:26
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Junior Group: Members Posts: 71 Warn:40%
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Как самому посылать так можно и не надо отождествлятся со своими релизами. |
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Posted: 21-06-2007, 20:53
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риполов-любитель Group: News makers Posts: 12604 Warn:0%
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maniac_of_noise 1. то ж две большие разницы  2. давай попробуем на релизах других  |
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Posted: 21-06-2007, 20:55
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риполов-любитель Group: News makers Posts: 12604 Warn:0%
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а ты сравнивал со своим конвертом до 16/44.1? |
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Posted: 27-06-2007, 00:14
(post 14, #761066)
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Junior Group: Members Posts: 70 Warn:0%
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Can I ask a maybe silly question? For all these sacd to mlp releases what kind of hardware/equipment is used to capture the multichannel analog out from sacd? This post has been edited by fchef on 27-06-2007, 00:15 |
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Posted: 27-06-2007, 04:36
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Junior Group: Members Posts: 58 Warn:0%
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+1!!! |
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