Review by Stephen Thomas Erlewine
Led Zeppelin's initial popularity was based as much on their concerts as their albums, so it's strange that the group's only official live album for many years is such an uninspired, boring affair. Released in conjunction with the pseudodocumentary film of the same name, The Song Remains the Same reproduces the very things that made Zeppelin concerts legendary — lengthy solos, intertwining interplay between Jimmy Page and Robert Plant, and ridiculously long songs ("Dazed and Confused" is nearly an entire half-hour) — but the group's performance is not intoxicating; it's long-winded. As scores of bootlegs prove, Led Zeppelin could produce magic with the same formula, but The Song Remains the Same is excruciatingly dull.
1 Rock and Roll Bonham, Jones, Page, Plant 4:03
2 Celebration Day Jones, Page, Plant 3:49
3 The Song Remains the Same Page, Plant 5:53
4 Rain Song Page, Plant 8:25
5 Dazed and Confused Page 26:52
6 No Quarter Jones, Page, Plant 12:30
7 Stairway to Heaven Page, Plant 10:57
8 Moby Dick Bonham, Jones, Page 12:46
9 Whole Lotta Love Bonham, Dixon, Jones, Page ... 14:25
John Bonham Drums
Cameron Crowe Liner Notes
Barry Diament Mastering
Peter Grant Executive Producer
Hipgnosis Hardie Sleeve Art
John Paul Jones Bass, Piano, Keyboards
Eddie Kramer Engineer
Jimmy Page Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Producer
Robert Plant Harmonica, Vocals
без етого альбома - не будет порядка в воздушных войсках :rolleyes:
Дык, как это - спасибо! :)
Sartre
@ 16-07-2008, 15:28
Pardon the old post bump, but this isn't really a remaster is it? I'm assuming it's the same Barry Diament mastering as the original CD release.
Is there a needledrop of the Classic Records release floating around?
Crassimo
@ 16-07-2008, 16:19
| QUOTE (Sartre @ 16-07-2008, 18:28) |
Pardon the old post bump, but this isn't really a remaster is it? I'm assuming it's the same Barry Diament mastering as the original CD release.
Is there a needledrop of the Classic Records release floating around? |
I think that it's just re-issue...may be level boosted(?)
If you are looking for remaster:
Topic Link: Led Zeppelin -2007. The Song Remains The Same. 2CD
Sartre
@ 16-07-2008, 23:41
I have the remaster... I was looking for a better version of the old mixes. The new remaster is brickwalled to the hilt as well.
:fear2:
bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 05:38
the 2007 is the worst thing i've ever heard!!!
not only ultra brickwalled, remixed too (moby dick...)!!
I think that the 1997 (?) is the best.
yury_usa
@ 17-07-2008, 05:46
Here's what I have:
Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) (Swan Song 201-2) {Barry Diament Mastering}Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) {Japanese Swan Song 24bit-96kHz vinyl}but I can share it only in 2 weeks, cuz I'm going on vacation :)
Here's the same screenshot from Barry Diament CD (Track01 - Rock And Roll)

bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 06:49
201-2?? where do you look for that numbers??
i have the swang song too: 7567-90303-2 (france ca 881)
on the back: lc 3445
on the cds: lc 0121
warner made in germany
barry diament CD mastering at Atlantic Studios
а что японцы типа 32P2-2741-2 уже не канают? :rolleyes:
Crassimo
@ 17-07-2008, 11:22
По идее это одно и то же :) все издания должны быть одинаковыми до 2007го года, когда вышел ремастер.
bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 12:11
You got it.
i don't think that 1993 atlantic be remaster, as i say.
...and mine's isn't Atlantic..., is Wea.. :drink: :wc: :haha: :monkey:
bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 13:25
...sorry i don't see Atlantic in any where on CD, but two places:
1- what i say before: 'Barry Diament CD mastering at Atlantic Studios' in the paper.
2- and...: 'distributed by Atlantic Recording Corporation' in the back.
This is my version:
http://cgi.ebay.es/LED-ZEPPELIN-The-Song-Remains-The-Same-FIRST-PRESS-2-CD_W0QQitemZ130...temZ130...yZ1049QQcmdZViewItemstrange..., says 'first press CD... released in 1984'...
..just only ten years hole
:dunno:
bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 14:01
Well.., when yury_usa back from vacations i may seed my copy to test with he's 'Swang Song' version.
...if you want...
yury_usa
@ 17-07-2008, 19:51
| QUOTE (bertox @ 17-07-2008, 07:01) |
Well.., when yury_usa back from vacations i may seed my copy to test with he's 'Swang Song' version.
...if you want... |
bertoxI have a feeling that yours is identical to what I have. Here are some scans
| SPOILER (LOGs(check peak level on yours)) |
EAC extraction logfile from 5. April 2006, 8:29 for CD Led Zeppelin / The Song Remains The Same (Disc 1)
Used drive : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S Adapter: 0 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache Read offset correction : 12 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options : Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Installed external ASPI interface
Track 1 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 1\01 - Rock And Roll.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.44
Peak level 84.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC A5EF84EB Copy CRC A5EF84EB Copy OK
Track 2 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 1\02 - Celebration Day.wav
Peak level 100.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 300057B5 Copy CRC 300057B5 Copy OK
Track 3 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 1\03 - The Song Remains The Same.wav
Peak level 86.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC F7DAEACA Copy CRC F7DAEACA Copy OK
Track 4 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 1\04 - Rain Song.wav
Peak level 91.0 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC F0DCA838 Copy CRC F0DCA838 Copy OK
Track 5 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 1\05 - Dazed And Confused.wav
Peak level 68.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 78B0944A Copy CRC 78B0944A Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report
EAC extraction logfile from 5. April 2006, 9:42 for CD Led Zeppelin / The Song Remains The Same (Disc Two)
Used drive : LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1633S Adapter: 0 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache Read offset correction : 12 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options : Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Installed external ASPI interface
Track 1 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 2\01 - No Quarter.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.44
Peak level 95.0 % Track quality 99.9 % Test CRC A796776D Copy CRC A796776D Copy OK
Track 2 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 2\02 - Stairway To Heaven.wav
Peak level 84.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 6E38AA42 Copy CRC 6E38AA42 Copy OK
Track 3 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 2\03 - Moby Dick.wav
Peak level 92.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 11931B6C Copy CRC 11931B6C Copy OK
Track 4 Filename D:\FLAC\Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same (1976) [FLAC] (Swan Song 201-2)\Disc 2\04 - Whole Lotta Love.wav
Peak level 97.4 % Track quality 100.0 % Test CRC 11BE29FA Copy CRC 11BE29FA Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report |
bertox
@ 17-07-2008, 22:14
the scans are almost the same... despite of matrix numbers (756790303-2/1 WME , the same of the e-bay guy).
sorry, i can't do level test for now cause' i didn't extract my copies yet.
Maybe SH forum say something...
Sartre
@ 18-07-2008, 00:51
The "remastered" version has a peak of 100% on the first CD and 97.6 on the second CD (no track by track status in the log files). It's probably just level boosted as noted before.
