yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 04:24
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| Артист: |
Van Halen |
| Альбом: |
Van Halen, 1998 |
| Жанр: |
Hard Rock |
| Формат файла: |
eac-cue-log-flac-scans-rar |
| Ссылка: |
CD |
| Нахождение: |
eDonkey/Kademlia |
| Примечание: |
DCC 24K от Steve Hoffman |
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log file
| CODE |
EAC extraction logfile from 19. November 2005, 21:38 for CD
Van Halen / Van Halen (DCC)
Used drive : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Track 1
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\01 - Runnin' With The Devil.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 79EA9DE7
Copy CRC 79EA9DE7
Copy OK
Track 2
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\02 - Eruption.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:03.09
Peak level 69.4 %
Track quality 99.8 %
Test CRC C0E2953E
Copy CRC C0E2953E
Copy OK
Track 3
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\03 - You Really Got Me.wav
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 7B09382B
Copy CRC 7B09382B
Copy OK
Track 4
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\04 - Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:00.57
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC FEDC422B
Copy CRC FEDC422B
Copy OK
Track 5
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\05 - I'm The One.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:03.44
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 990B94D0
Copy CRC 990B94D0
Copy OK
Track 6
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\06 - Jamie's Cryin'.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:06.44
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 80D6B990
Copy CRC 80D6B990
Copy OK
Track 7
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\07 - Atomic Punk.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.22
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 9533E41B
Copy CRC 9533E41B
Copy OK
Track 8
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\08 - Feel Your Love Tonight.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 63322137
Copy CRC 63322137
Copy OK
Track 9
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\09 - Little Dreamer.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.04
Peak level 90.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 727C61E7
Copy CRC 727C61E7
Copy OK
Track 10
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\10 - Ice Cream Man.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.73
Peak level 95.8 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 77B8E89E
Copy CRC 77B8E89E
Copy OK
Track 11
Filename C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\eac to wave\11 - On Fire.wav
Pre-gap length 0:00:02.16
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC FA186925
Copy CRC FA186925
Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report
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cue file
cdimage сделан по методу ув.
djet'a :w00t:
| QUOTE |
1. Сконвертировал все треки в wav
2. Занес их в фубар (последняя бета) и слил в один wav
3. Перегнал wav в апе, добавил уже готовый куй для апе.. |
:hi:
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 04:26
Gold CD
In place of the aluminum commonly used as the reflective coating on regular CDs, gold is sometimes used, which coats more evenly and reacts with oxygen slower, providing greater longevity. The higher fidelity associated with gold CDs is actually a result of the remastering process and not of the gold coating itself. Gold CDs can be played in any CD player.thanks to my friends :)
Van Halen - 1978 Van Halen 1998. DCC Gold Disc. Steve Hoffman's Remasterby
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Amazon.com
At least half of the songs on Van Halen's eponymous 1978 debut are still considered classics, and the Eddie Van Halen instrumental "Eruption" revolutionized the guitar community by introducing a technique called finger-tapping into the heavy metal lexicon. A magnificent debut for sure, but maybe the band should have held onto a few of their blockbuster tunes to bolster the lean years that started after 1984, and continue to the present day. Regardless, Van Halen amply demonstrate their drive, showmanship, and musicianship throughout, blowing the needle off the scale on such tracks as "You Really Got Me," "Jamie's Cryin'," "Runnin' with the Devil," and "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love." --Jon Wiederhorn
Product Description
Released On Warner Bros. Records 1978
Produced By Ted Templeman
Engineered By Donn Landee
Remastered From The Original Warner Bros. Two-Track Master Mixes By Steve Hoffman
Everything wrong with 'audiophile music' is right on DCC's reissue of Van Halen's debut record 'Van Halen.' This record is loaded with the ground breaking style and classic songs that literally cleared the way for hard rock and metal in the 1980's.
Review by Greg Prato
Van Halen's self-titled 1978 debut is undoubtedly one of the all-time best debuts by a hard rock/heavy metal band. All of the components for a classic are represented - excellent songs and high-octane performances (the excitement of their live show was captured perfectly by producer Ted Templeman) are used to create an invigorating, original sound. Like other acclaimed debuts (Led Zeppelin, Are You Experienced?), Van Halen has a raw edge since it was recorded quickly, and every single song is a winner. It's also become one of the ultimate party albums over the years, since the overall mood is excited and celebratory. While singer David Lee Roth's bravado and the steady rhythm section of drummer Alex Van Halen and bassist Michael Anthony were both key ingredients, the main attraction was Eddie Van Halen's guitar playing. Few other guitarists have had such an instant impact on a generation of up-and-coming players who copied his unorthodox, kamikaze style - especially his trademark tapping technique showcased on the album's legendary solo, "Eruption." Almost all of the tracks on Van Halen have rightfully become radio staples, such as the scorching rockers "Runnin' With the Devil," "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love," "Jamie's Cryin'," "Atomic Punk," and "On Fire," while covers of "You Really Got Me" and "Ice Cream Man" remain awe-inspiring to this day. Van Halen proved to be the ultimate coming-of-age soundtrack to many a teenager since its release, resulting in sales of over ten million in the U.S. alone. Everyone on the planet should own a copy of this landmark release.
shaman624
@ 11-01-2006, 05:35
Cool Thanks :wink:
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 06:10
пару слов о группе
(wikipedia):
Van Halen is an American rock band formed in the early-1970s and discovered by KISS bassist and co-founder Gene Simmons. The band's first studio album, Van Halen, released in 1978 is widely regarded as a milestone in rock music. With this first release, the band established itself as a leader in the emerging and commercially successful U.S. heavy metal music genre of the 1980s. In particular, the band's guitarist, Eddie Van Halen, quickly gained widespread notoriety for his technical prowess and musical sensibility. Almost overnight, he was touted as one of the most innovative and influential American rock and roll guitarists.The band has also established itself as one of the major live acts of that era, opening up for Journey, Montrose, and later Black Sabbath in 1978. According to Ozzy Osbourne, bringing Van Halen along on the tour was not the best idea because Van Halen simply outplayed them. It also became very popular for the antics, stage presence and larger-than-life persona of its lead singer, David Lee Roth, who was frequently called "Van Halen" by new fans.
From 1978 to 1998 the band released 11 studio albums (all of which broke the Top 20 spot of the Billboard 200 music charts). The band has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide and has received several Grammy nominations. Van Halen is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records with the most number one hits on the Billboard Mainstream Rock List. According to the Recording Industry Association of America Van Halen is #19 on the list of Top Selling Artists of all time (having sold more than 56 million albums in the U.S.). Van Halen is one of five rock groups in the world that have had 2 albums sell more than 10 million albums in the U.S. (the others being: Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Eagles and Def Leppard).
Keykey
@ 11-01-2006, 09:31
:fear2: :fear2: :fear2:
Oh my God!!!
LEPOTA x1.000.000!!!!! :lol: :lol: One of the Hard Rock masterpieces of all time!!!
SPASIBO!!!
............:::::::::::::...........
yuri usaI have got a question for you if you are so kind.....
Recently I have purchased via Amazon this CD:
Metallica - And Justice for All [Import]
Audio CD (December 1, 2003)
Number of Discs:1
Country of Origin: Japan
Label: Universal
ASIN: B0000CD8A9
Catalogue Number: SICP478
I bought it via Amazon. I guess I will have it in 2 - 3 weeks, more or less.
I thought all Replica CD were remastered but concerning this particular CD there is a comment at CDUniverse of a guy who says:
Justice for all (Import)| QUOTE |
Average Rating: 2 stars out of 5 2 stars
(1 reviews submitted)
2 stars Overpriced packaging
For the high price, you'd expect some kind of digital remastering, given that this was released in 2003. There was none at all! In fact, I think the sound from the original US CDs is better. You are paying over $30 just for a nice looking paper sleeve. For completists only!
Submitted by Arch in Jersey City, NJ |
So if this is true, I guess I have been swindled :lol:
TIA
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 15:56
KeyKey
I cannot really say for sure. It could be MUCH better than the official version. OR it could be an EXACT copy of it, but with fancy covers..
эх, весело у нас на форуме :lol:
у одного лог для имеджа, а в архиве - дорожки
у другого лог на дорожки, а в архиве - имедж :laugh:
чего бы самому придумать? ведь не интересно уже, когда всё совпадает :drag:
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 17:40
щас LF_ проверит, и все станет ясно :)
я матерюсь пока, могу предложить всем проверить вместе :)
Оригинальный CUE, который неправильный, был такой
| CODE |
REM GENRE "Hard Rock"
REM DATE 1978
REM DISCID 9308770B
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b3"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
TITLE "Van Halen (DCC)"
FILE "01 - Runnin' With The Devil.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Runnin' With The Devil"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Eruption"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:37:15
FILE "02 - Eruption.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "03 - You Really Got Me.wav" WAVE
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "You Really Got Me"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 02:38:07
FILE "04 - Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "I'm The One"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:50:07
FILE "05 - I'm The One.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Jamie's Cryin'"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:47:32
FILE "06 - Jamie's Cryin'.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Atomic Punk"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:31:70
FILE "07 - Atomic Punk.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Feel Your Love Tonight"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:02:53
FILE "08 - Feel Your Love Tonight.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Little Dreamer"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:43:27
FILE "09 - Little Dreamer.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 10 AUDIO
TITLE "Ice Cream Man"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:25:07
FILE "10 - Ice Cream Man.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 11 AUDIO
TITLE "On Fire"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:20:53
FILE "11 - On Fire.wav" WAVE
INDEX 01 00:00:00
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значит гапы были в конце треков, треки мы слил в вав (думаю фубарка это делает правильно, без идей) - теперь мы имеем необходимость пересчитать паузы и проверить что кью имеджа совпадает. Пересчет надо делать как (я устал туда всех посылать), но
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_CUE_She...28default.29.22кто хочет посчитать пару треков? Если пара совпадет, то скорее всего намано :)
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 18:02
там точно не 2х секундные паузы! я открывал имедж винампом и проверял.. есть где чуть меньше 2х секунд а есть где 3 и больше..
А, проверить я не могу :) Потому что треков у меня нет :p Поэтому назначаем на должность ОТК yury_usa - бери треки, засовывай их в ЕАС, смотри длины, записывай и пересчитывай :) Главное не бойся, это не очень больно и после этого ты навсегда поймешь почему треки - сукс и мастдай :diablo:
| QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-01-2006, 10:02) |
| там точно не 2х секундные паузы! я открывал имедж винампом и проверял.. есть где чуть меньше 2х секунд а есть где 3 и больше.. |
не 2хсекундные и правильные - это разные вещи ;) Ты проверяй, проверяй - что тебя смущает в ссылке, что я дал?
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 18:26
все, понял
загрузит трек в EAC, отнять от длины ту кот. в non-compliant cue, и сравнить с гапом который был в двух-индексном куе, правильно?
да, правильно - не забудь про "75 notation" :diablo:
И цифры сюда напиши тоже, мы проверим тоже :p
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 18:57
LF_пока я сравнивал, тут почта пришла, вот такое прислали:
Не отвлекайся :) Мы же в нетерпении ждем цифр :p
| QUOTE (LF_ @ 11-01-2006, 17:11) |
| Не отвлекайся :) Мы же в нетерпении ждем цифр :p |
а чо это вы тут делаете? :lol:
ведь можно.... нееее, пущай считает, раз заварил кашу :pig:
цифры сюда напиши тоже, мы проверим тоже :lol:
| QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-01-2006, 16:57) |
LF_
пока я сравнивал, тут почта пришла, вот такое прислали:
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а руки у него чистенькие, пальцы холёные... компутырщик, наверное :p
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 19:26
первые три трека скачал заново, загрузил в layout editor в EAC
track1.wav - длина 03:40.22
non-compli - длина 03:37.15
что соответсвует тому что в куе:
| QUOTE |
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Eruption"
PERFORMER "Van Halen"
INDEX 00 03:37:15
INDEX 01 03:40:22 |
тут даже и сравнивать не надо - индексы одинаковые :)
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 19:33
рипнул дипов, вот такой куй получил:
| CODE |
REM GENRE Rock
REM DATE 1973
REM DISCID 64081F07
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.95b3"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
TITLE "Who Do We Think We Are (Gold CD)"
FILE "CDImage.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Woman From Tokyo"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Mary Long"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 05:49:72
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Super Trouper"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 10:16:27
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "Smooth Dancer"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 13:14:42
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Rat Bat Blue"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 17:26:67
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Place In Line"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 22:54:25
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Our Lady"
PERFORMER "Deep Purple"
INDEX 01 29:26:02
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это нормально? eac показывает 2х секундный гап только на первом треке, остальные гапы 00:00.00
| QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-01-2006, 11:26) |
| тут даже и сравнивать не надо - индексы одинаковые :) |
Вот теперь мы тебе верим, огромное спасибо за собствено всё :) Начиная от релиза, кончая терпением и проделанной работй :)
По поводу пёплов... не знаю... Можно попробовать тебя заставить проверить гапы на другом приводе, на другом ASPI или на его внутреннем интерфейсе, помнеять определения гапов на другие (но секурные) и тп. Мне лично не понятно почему такой мастеринг стал модным в последнее время... Не только у тебя такие CUE получаются... Такого быть не должно, потому что гапы таки есть на этом диске - т.е. я про то, что паузы между песен есть? значит должны быть и гапы ;) Это если говорить о стандарте...
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 20:23
на laptop'е попробовал - куй тот же
обычно потрековые рипы содержат только noncompliant.CUE, иногда и corrected.cue, тут автор выдал ещё и image.cue, зачем? а что бы LF_ мог прожечь диск через noncompliant.CUE, снять с него imageBURN.cue, сравнить с заданым и убедиться, что они одинаковые :rolleyes:
yury_usa
@ 11-01-2006, 20:38
да это я его так назвал cdimage.cue, чего прикалываться-то :lol:
проверили же все уже, куй праввильный, wav правильный..
а пока вот лог от перплов:
| CODE |
EAC extraction logfile from 11. January 2006, 12:30 for CD
Deep Purple / Who Do We Think We Are (Gold CD)
Used drive : SONY DVD RW DW-D56A Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface
Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename C:\KAVUN\Deep Purple - Who Do We Think We Are (Gold CD).wav
Peak level 99.7 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC 7B373E19
Copy OK
No errors occured
End of status report
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оффсеты добавил, OlCh, примешь?
| QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-01-2006, 18:38) |
да это я его так назвал cdimage.cue, чего прикалываться-то :lol:
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не, я серьёзно - можно было тебе нифига не считать, а прожеch' disk i t.d. :)
| QUOTE (yury_usa @ 11-01-2006, 18:38) |
| оффсеты добавил, OlCh, примешь? |
а не видно тама DP :(
| QUOTE (OlCh @ 11-01-2006, 12:35) |
| обычно потрековые рипы содержат только noncompliant.CUE, иногда и corrected.cue, тут автор выдал ещё и image.cue, зачем? а что бы LF_ мог прожечь диск через noncompliant.CUE, снять с него imageBURN.cue, сравнить с заданым и убедиться, что они одинаковые :rolleyes: |
Автора просили выдать нормальны имеджевый CUE только для того, чтобы мона было слить треки в вав и не пересчитывать CUE руками - сделать из noncompliant CUE нормальный мона либо путем математических гиморностей, либо прожечь, снять обратно (что тоже гиморно) - но результаты должны быть одинаковые, это факт :) Но мы его проверили ради интереса, потому что особо продвинутые умельцы берут имедж, потом сплитят его на треки без гапов, дают тебе noncompliant CUE - что хочешь то и делай потом... А то и не дают ваще ничего кроме треков - и угадывай - есть там гапы и где они (молчу уж про сколько) :diablo:
| QUOTE (LF_ @ 11-01-2006, 19:01) |
| Автора просили выдать нормальны имеджевый CUE |
мы говорим о разных авторах :rolleyes:
| QUOTE (OlCh @ 11-01-2006, 21:29) |
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Не могу удержаться от рекламы сего издания:
Van Halen
Van Halen (DCC Gold Disc)
That came out great! I heard the regular CD of that... was there bass guitar on there? But on the master tape, it's really nice. It sounds really good. But apparently the tape I used was never used to make anything. It was just the original mixes, and they were immediately copied to a more "easy to cut" version for LP, and that was marked as master. The same old story. But that's what has been used all these years to make everything: to make the CDs, the LPs, the copies for England, all the other countries. So the original master had this nice full sound. It still sounds like Van Halen, but to me it's just more of everything.
Steve Hoffman
