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kokiku

@ 21-01-2006, 22:54

Артист:	The Who
Альбом:	Who's Next, 1971
Жанр:	Rock
Формат файла:	flac eac scans
Ссылка:	CD

Tracklisting:

1.Baba O'Riley (4:59)
Violin - Dave Arbus
2.Bargain (5:33)
3.Love Ain't For Keepin' (2:11)
4.My Wife (3:35)
5.The Song Is Over (6:16)
Piano - Nicky Hopkins
6.Gettin' In Tune (4:49)
Piano - Nicky Hopkins
7.Goin' Mobile (3:40)
8.Behind Blue Eyes (3:40)
9.Won't Get Fooled Again (8:31)

Label: MCA Records (Canada)
Catalog#: MCABD 37217
Format: CD
Country: Canada
Released: 1986

Which vintage CD reissues sound the best?

The Who, "Who's Next":
The mid-'90s series of Who reissues is often held up by audiophiles as a how-not-to of remastering, thanks to the compression, remixing, and other tinkering the original albums were subjected to. Again, many like Universal's Deluxe Edition, which made up for earlier gaffes with its version of "Who's Next." But the version that seems truest to the original master tape is a Canadian MCA pressing (MCABD-37217) mastered by Hoffman.

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EAC extraction logfile for CD
The Who / Who's Next [Canada MCABD-37217]

Used drive :
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 66
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface

Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename _CDImage.wav

Peak level 99.4 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC B7ACFBE3
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

yury_usa

@ 21-01-2006, 23:02

kokiku
спасибо, но почему в этот раздел?
в super sound надо бы..

kokiku

@ 21-01-2006, 23:09

Это решится по ходу дела, я думаю.
А то мы так всё туда начнём постить. :)

OlCh

@ 21-01-2006, 23:13

спасибо :)

и дейсительно? ведь там написано:

The Who, "Who's Next": The mid-'90s series of Who reissues is often held up by audiophiles as a how-not-to of remastering, thanks to the compression, remixing, and other tinkering the original albums were subjected to. Again, many like Universal's Deluxe Edition, which made up for earlier gaffes with its version of "Who's Next." But the version that seems truest to the original master tape is a Canadian MCA pressing (MCABD-37217) mastered by Hoffman.

kokiku

@ 21-01-2006, 23:17

А где писали? На НетЛабе? :D

yury_usa

@ 21-01-2006, 23:19

kokiku
ты сам покупал? где, если не секрет?

kokiku

@ 21-01-2006, 23:25

Я лично пока Cream Свежий DCC слушаю - очень ндравится. :punk:
Но тут может повлиять многое:
1. Cream
2. DCC
3. Creative Inspire T5900 + Soundblaster Audigy 2
4. 300 г. X 40 град. внутри меня.
:D
Пока судить рано, но и не поздно! :D

kokiku

@ 21-01-2006, 23:27

Жил бы в своё время в Канаде - может и купил бы! :rolleyes:
А где тут я куплю? :actu:
От "альянса" получил. :D

OlCh

@ 22-01-2006, 01:13

QUOTE (yury_usa @ 21-01-2006, 22:41)

я сегодня заказал хоффмановские:

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"The Who - Who's Missing" (MCBBD31221, Canadian pressing) sealed
US$ 12

"The Who - Meaty Beaty Big And Bouncy" (MCBBD37001, Canadian pressing) sealed
US$ 12

ну runo тебя расцелует, я так думаю ;) :rolleyes:

только ему надо ПМ ящик почистить, не идут к тебе runo послания! :(

yury_usa

@ 22-01-2006, 01:15

проблема в том, что они из германии
еще думаю насчет shipping.. может кто из германии закажет?

OlCh

@ 22-01-2006, 01:41

намёк понял :lol: ноооооо...
- я не такой большой любитель Тhe Who :(
- и копии этих дисков у меня есть :)

yury_usa

@ 22-01-2006, 01:44

я тебе ПМ послал.. у него там кроме Ху еще кое что :)

OlCh

@ 22-01-2006, 21:09

дык тут с етим Ху... проблема :wink:

извиняюсь, но файл неправильный и будет снят с расшарки, после разборок виновные (т.е. я :actu: ) будут наказаны :fu:
ещё раз - мои извинения :( :)

конечно скоро будет с новым хешем :rolleyes:

kokiku

@ 22-01-2006, 21:24

Извиняйте!
Этот релиз отменяется!
Удалите, п-ста, его из мула!
Позже я дам новый хэш на файл!

Sorry!

This release was cancelled.
Please delete it from your emule!
Later I'll paste a new hash!
Sorry!

kokiku

@ 23-01-2006, 08:07

Вбита новая ссылка на файл!
:hi:

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EAC extraction logfile for CD
The Who / Who's Next [Canada MCABD-37217]

Used drive :
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 66
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface

Range status and errors
Selected range
Filename _CDImage.wav

Peak level 99.4 %
Range quality 100.0 %
CRC B7ACFBE3
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

runo

@ 27-10-2006, 08:20

Стив отвечает на вопрос : как бы он "мастерил" Who's Next сейчас, если бы была возможность!

Re: Q for Steve: Who's Next

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KAD
Hi Steve,

I recently got a chance to listen your mastering of Who's Next and compared to my own Gold MCA MasterDisc it was almost like day and night. The gold disc mastered by Glen Meadows sounds brittle and very harsh to the ears. Yours is much warmer and rounder and pleasant to listen to.
I feel the record itself has so to say "solid state" nature with Glyn Jones pushing VU meters high.
My question is: What would you do now if asked to do say new DSD transfer of this classic?
Would you run it flat directly to DSD converter like you did with Willy and The Poor boys or would you add some "Breath of Life" to it?

Thanks for answer!

Well, WHO'S NEXT was mastered the same way I did the Creedence stuff. I bypassed the console and went straight, using the playback unit itself to add a bit of "breath". I'd still do it that way. The great sound of the original tape speaks for itself.
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SH

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=95090

yury_usa

@ 27-10-2006, 12:51

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The great sound of the original tape speaks for itself.

именно!

OlCh

@ 27-10-2006, 12:59

QUOTE (yury_usa @ 27-10-2006, 10:51)

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The great sound of the original tape speaks for itself.

дык может там он этот great sound?

yury_usa

@ 27-10-2006, 13:21

OlCh
не думаю. Все равно лучше Cтива японцам не удасться сделать :lol: