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Posted by: yury_usa on 04-01-2006, 09:22 | ||||||||||||||||
Track Listing
1. Hotel California 2. New Kid In Town 3. Life In The Fast Lane 4. Wasted Time 5. Wasted Time (Reprise) 6. Victim Of Love 7. Pretty Maids All In A Row 8. Try And Love Again 9. Last Resort, The Details Producer: Bill Szymcyzk Distributor: Ryko Distribution Recording Type: Studio Recording Mode: Stereo SPAR Code: n/a Album Notes The Eagles: Glenn Frey, Joe Walsh, Don Felder (vocals, guitar, keyboards); Randy Meisner (vocals, guitarone, bass); Don Henley (vocals, drums, percussion); Recorded at Criteria Studios, Miami, Florida and the Record Plant, Los Angeles, California from March to October 1976. Given the extraordinary amount of airplay HOTEL CALIFORNIA garnered in the mid-70s and early '80s, it comes as quite a surprise to hear how fresh this recording sounds on DCC's 24k gold disc version. Familiar tracks benefit from the enhanced soundstage and control room-clarity of this exceptional digital remastering, revealing something of the actual recording studio room sound on many tracks. A steady growth suddenly mushroomed into a monster as the Eagles, along with Fleetwood Mac, epitomized AOR in the early 70s. This record is supposedly a concept album but most of the purchasers merely enjoyed the accessible songs while driving down to the coast in their Volkswagen Caravanettes with 2.4 children. Joe Walsh was added to give gutsy guitar in the wake of the country flavour of Bernie Leaden, while Randy Meisner grew in stature as a writer with 'Try And Love Again' and 'New Kid In Town'. The title track still bites as Henley's voice blends with Walsh's epic solo. Industry Reviews Ranked #37 in Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time - ...The highlight is the title track, a monument to the rock-aristocrat decadence of the day and a feast of triple-guitar interplay... Rolling Stone (12/11/2003) |
Posted by: yury_usa on 04-01-2006, 09:23 | ||||
log file
cue file
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Posted by: yury_usa on 04-01-2006, 09:28 |
подправьте в названии темы "TThe Eagles" --> "The Eagles", спасибо |
Posted by: BeatleJohn on 04-01-2006, 12:03 |
Ты нас просто разбаловал совсем! Я не успеваю ставить на закачку! Что бы мне выложить? |
Posted by: yury_usa on 05-01-2006, 18:58 |
Shiza как скачаешь, в релиз to all кто-нит знает есть ли в морфе опция больше чем один friend slot выделять? или надо другой мод ставить? |
Posted by: Shiza on 06-01-2006, 02:35 | ||
С привеликим удовольствием |
Posted by: Shiza on 06-01-2006, 02:50 |
Или ты имел ввиду вот это : Metallica - Master Of Puppets (1986) ... Remaster) (http://netlab.e2k.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=59161&st=0#entry523335 |
Posted by: yury_usa on 06-01-2006, 02:50 |
интересно, а как звучит японский ремастер? Label:WARNER,country:Japan,releaseID:WPCR-11936 |
Posted by: LF_ on 06-01-2006, 06:56 |
Мы погибнем в волне ремастеров (С) Браза |
Posted by: SpeculaNT on 06-01-2006, 15:05 | ||
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Posted by: OlCh on 06-01-2006, 15:38 |
полный комплект обложек: The.Eagles-1976.Hotel.California.DCC.Gold.Disc.scans.rar (ed2k://|file|The.Eagles-1976.Hotel.California.DCC.Gold.Disc.scans.by.server_alliance.rar|20997861|A0A61C3D9C90BDE9750C6F0F33070AB8|/ |
Posted by: Shiza on 06-01-2006, 21:57 |
Добавлена торрент ссылка Тут (http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=3089&dllist=1#seeders |
Posted by: yury_usa on 06-01-2006, 22:11 | ||||
ээмм.. скачал на педре вот такой релиз: Eagles - Hotel California (1976) [flac] {DCC} log
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лог тут получше, но треками идея такая: может, перелить все flac'и в один фубаркой? куй здесь от образа вроде.. |
Posted by: OlCh on 06-01-2006, 22:43 | ||
стоит ли лепить новый релиз только из-за С2? |
Posted by: yury_usa on 06-01-2006, 23:00 |
OlCh вообще наверное нет.. но я знаю что LF_ не любит С2 |
Posted by: LF_ on 06-01-2006, 23:16 |
Продолжаю не любить С2, треки и особенно Педру Из такого CUE образ собрать никак низя - в нем нет ссылок на файлы треков (что поправимо), но я не понимаю в какой моде они делали рип - где гапы? В начале, в конце или нет ваще их в вавах? Я бы руки этим конструкторам оторвал - купить диски деньги есть, а мозга - нет... |
Posted by: yury_usa on 06-01-2006, 23:25 | ||
а это разве не гап?
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Posted by: OlCh on 06-01-2006, 23:32 | ||
только прослушал диск - звук-фантастика! и остальное всё в порядке |
Posted by: LF_ on 06-01-2006, 23:44 |
2yury_usa: А он где? В CUE? Нет? И куда мне его засовывать? ГАП должен быть относительно вав файла, который прописан в CUE, чтобы можно было понять - куда приделывать этот самый гап к ваву... А так мне что - пересчитывать теперь и проверять вавы, пытаясь понять где там тишина? А если тишины нет? |
Posted by: LF_ on 06-01-2006, 23:45 | ||
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Posted by: OlCh on 21-01-2006, 14:57 | ||
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Posted by: LF_ on 21-01-2006, 19:36 |
БлюРей аудио, двд это прошлый век Когда-то я думал, что будут выпускать типа ДВД диск с дикографией группы, за 10 баксов.... наивняк |
Posted by: OlCh on 21-01-2006, 19:57 | ||
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Posted by: Uzaren on 21-01-2006, 22:19 |
Ой, а как этоя этот топик пропустил |
Posted by: runo on 23-01-2006, 15:43 | ||
И еще, зачем останавливаться на достигнутом? Пошукай там на педре или еще где-нибудь: DCC GZS-1039 1993 Gold CD, Eagles - The Their Greatest Hits Это ОООЧЕНЬ классный ремастер! Take It Easy чего одна стоит! Я бы перевел как "Забей!" |
Posted by: runo on 23-01-2006, 19:41 |
[QUOTE=runo,23-01-2006, 15:43] [/QUOTE]НЕМНОГО ИНФОРМАЦИИ КАК ЭТО ЗОЛОТОЙ ЦД ДЕЛАЛСЯ и КАК С НИМ НАМУ...СЯ НАШ УВАЖАЕМЫЙ МИСТЕР СТИВ ХОФФМАН: What was the hardest project to master? I think it was "Hotel California"! First of all, the tape wouldn't play because of the "sticky shed" syndrome. The binding and oxides gum up. Any tape made after about 1974 is prone to that. However, if you heat tapes up in a convection oven, the tape will play for a week or two. So we cooked Hotel California! I had to sign a disclaimer for Ampex saying it's not their fault if the tapes are accidentally destroyed. I thought, "Sheesh, why does it have to be Hotel California that needs cooking?" The tapes came back and they played fine. Phew. Next, the sound itself! In fact, when we finally got those master tapes from Criteria Studios in Miami, it was like I wanted to cancel the project. We had already paid Elektra/Asylum all the advance money and everything. But I didn't understand how something could sound so muffled and bass-heavy, and be the actual master. So I thought, "maybe it's been destroyed." So I got the safetys, and they were 1:1 copies. They sounded exactly the same way. So I thought, "it must be the way they were mixed." I went in search of (engineer) Bill Szymczyk's JBL monitors (not the exact same pair he used, but a similar pair). I stuck them out in the middle of the room without any bass re-enforcement [like at Criteria in 1976]. "Oh, ok, that sounds more like it!" All that boomy bass was gone, and it started to take shape. I had one or two choices at that point. Either sell a pair of JBL studio monitors with every gold CD, or master the thing the way it should be sounding on everyone's stereo, like it sounds on those JBLs. So that's what I ended up doing. But let me tell you, I scratched my head a long time trying to figure out how to make that sound good. I used a lot of EQ on those. I didn't add any EQ, I just subtracted. Sometimes -14 db at 100 cycles. That's a lot! And even then, it was still pretty boomy. |
Posted by: yury_usa on 23-01-2006, 20:49 | ||
runo
сделай вот что: рипни диск в еас и запости сюда размер wav файла (в байтах), и куй к нему.. я сравню с моим, и если совпадает, знач. у меня тоже правильный wav |
Posted by: runo on 23-01-2006, 21:29 | ||||
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Posted by: yury_usa on 13-04-2006, 20:18 |
если кому-то еще нужны обложки: http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2DFLGFCACYUOL2HPQCKQRBVQIO (http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2DFLGFCACYUOL2HPQCKQRBVQIO |
Posted by: vvt on 04-08-2006, 22:50 | ||||||
Может быть все-таки уважемый runo сделает новый рип и релиз по всем правилам? |
Posted by: OlCh on 05-08-2006, 11:25 | ||
а я обязуюсь смайстрячить CD с ДВД-Аудио и сравним |
Posted by: yury_usa on 18-03-2007, 22:34 |
сравнил ДВД-Аудио (стерео) и Хофммановский.. Хоффмановский понрвился больше, звук теплее, басы получше. В двд-аудио звук отличный, но чего-то не хватает, может быть там делали EQ (?) |
Posted by: audiospirit on 18-03-2007, 22:45 |
Хофман широко использует в мастеринге ламповую технику,что и дает многим его мастерингам ласковый звук.У меня есть тоже одноименный двд-аудио,имхо звук с высоченным разрешением,но холодный,мертвоватый. |
Posted by: yury_usa on 18-03-2007, 22:54 | ||
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Posted by: runo on 08-11-2007, 21:38 |
Может мне рипнуть свой диск? Без C2! Плюс нет в ковриках SLIP COVER! |
Posted by: runo on 08-11-2007, 21:49 |
Вот лог такой: Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 8. November 2007, 21:49 Eagles / Hotel California (DCC Gold Disc GZS-1024) Used drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A Adapter: 1 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : No Read offset correction : 30 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes Used interface : Installed external ASPI interface Used output format : Internal WAV Routines Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 6:35.05 | 0 | 29629 2 | 6:35.05 | 5:05.07 | 29630 | 52511 3 | 11:40.12 | 4:49.48 | 52512 | 74234 4 | 16:29.60 | 5:00.25 | 74235 | 96759 5 | 21:30.10 | 1:25.70 | 96760 | 103204 6 | 22:56.05 | 4:10.35 | 103205 | 121989 7 | 27:06.40 | 4:11.27 | 121990 | 140841 8 | 31:17.67 | 5:15.08 | 140842 | 164474 9 | 36:33.00 | 7:31.37 | 164475 | 198336 Range status and errors Selected range Filename C:\TO COPY\TO SEND\Eagles - Hotel California\Eagles - Hotel California (DCC Gold Disc GZS-1024).wav Peak level 100.0 % Range quality 100.0 % Copy CRC DA1C6BA8 Copy OK No errors occurred AccurateRip summary Track 1 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [619EC2CD], AccurateRip returned [4D053722] Track 2 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [B91E3F7B], AccurateRip returned [1875472C] Track 3 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [E2BEEED7], AccurateRip returned [2075533C] Track 4 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [F1F96891], AccurateRip returned [5468F006] Track 5 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [3A8D2849], AccurateRip returned [112D10D0] Track 6 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [9B71338F], AccurateRip returned [D1A13443] Track 7 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [5C35BCD2], AccurateRip returned [C9253C86] Track 8 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [59175EED], AccurateRip returned [853B9A88] Track 9 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [9272CD4B], AccurateRip returned [ADF29C44] No tracks could be verified as accurate You may have a different pressing from the one(s) in the database End of status report |
Posted by: ShirA on 08-11-2007, 23:10 | ||
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Posted by: runo on 09-11-2007, 08:04 | ||||
Издание обычное DCC 24 kt Gold - на внутренней стороне диска написано Mastered by Nimbus! Диск делался в Штатах, это не Япония! Хотя диск ранний - 1994 год! |
Posted by: yury_usa on 09-11-2007, 08:23 |
выложу.. скоро |
Posted by: runo on 09-11-2007, 09:16 | ||
Думаю на выходных заняться! |
Posted by: yury_usa on 09-11-2007, 09:30 |
runo сканы у меня такие (400dpi) так что слип наверное только нужен |