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Santana - Abraxas (2001), DTS Audio CD, EAC\APE image

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OlCh

Posted: 27-07-2006, 13:02 (post 16, #633775)

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QUOTE (Uzaren @ 27-07-2006, 09:15)

если бы там было написано 40% - это совсем другое дело :laugh:

ну дак я и говорю что 100% эт подозрительно и не бывает :actu:

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Posted: 27-07-2006, 13:12 (post 17, #633781)

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OlCh
вы вообще о чём??? какие 40%, какие 100%???

Вот обзор этого диска:

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For over 30 years and the entire history of high-end audio, Carlos Santana has been one of the elite guitar heroes cranking out salsa-flavored, Latin-inspired rock records that have captivated generations of music enthusiasts. In recent years, the music of Carlos Santana has exploded in popularity and transcended classic rock status to gain airplay on oldies, soul and alternative rock stations. Santana’s resurgence is no coincidence when you consider the musical and commercial success of Latin-pop acts like Ricky Martin, Enrique Eglasias, Mark Anthony, Christina Aguilera and Jennifer Lopez. Consider a modern Santana record, complete with guest performances from Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20), Dave Matthews, Wyclef Jean (The Fugees), Lauryn Hill and Eric Clapton, along with a handful of Grammys, and you have an argument for Carlos Santana being one of the biggest rock stars on the planet – again.

1970’s ‘Abraxas’ is the record that broke Carlos Santana into superstardom. Featuring wild percussion, flaming guitar melodies and devastating grooves, ‘Abraxas’ has been a crossover hit and a classic rock anthem for years. The 5.1 mix of ‘Abraxas’ gives a fresh, three-dimensional look and sound to this classic album. The idea of re-mixing a record this familiar is a risky one. We’ve heard these jams hundreds if not thousands of times, which can serve to heighten criticism of a new twist on an old favorite.

The overall sound of the 5.1 HDS release of ‘Abraxas’ is a bit dark in comparison to some of the more modern 5.1 – 20/24 bit releases now on the market. Consider the fact that studio sessions for this record took place some time in 1969, when multi-track recording equipment was barely five years old, and you’ll appreciate how resolute this mix is. Compare the mix to Sting’s ‘Brand New Day’ or ‘Boyz II Men II,’ and you’ll be bummed.

The most familiar track on ‘Abraxas’ is "Black Magic Woman," a tune that spreads a tasty array of percussive trickery all over the 360 degree soundstage. When the vocals come in, the subtle strummings of Santana move to the rear tracks, while the front three channels present a very clear and far more resolute picture of what is in front of you. The sound is analog, mellow and warm. Towards the end of the track, Santana gets into a call and response solo section where his guitar chops are panned from front to back and side to side. Things are moving fast and there is a lot to listen for. It is quite different than the traditional two-channel mix. It may take you two or three times through this often-heard cut to appreciate the new mix, but its increased resolution and 5.1 trickery shows that you can teach an old dog new tricks.

"Oye Como Va" is the first cut to show me why I wasn’t crazy for investing in $2,000-a-pair rear channels and a $5,000 Proceed AMP 5 power amplifier. Unlike "Black Magic Woman," the track "Oye Como Va" focuses Santana mainly in the rear channels, while directing the vocals and smoking organ to the front. This mix is very different than the two-channel version. However, it offers far more space and depth. The best demonstration of just how amazing the resolution on the record is has the little maracas and percussive instruments mixed to the front left of the soundstage. They jump right out of your speakers and it is hard to believe they were recorded in 1969.

"Samba Pa Ti" and "Hope You’re Feeling Better" are also strong tracks from ‘Abraxas,’ a record that should be in every rock enthusiast’s collection in one form or another. The 5.1 mix of ‘Abraxas’ is not an exact copy of the original record, nor should it have been. If you grew up listening to this record, it may take you a while to get used to hearing Mr. Santana mixed into the rear channels. Factor in the increased resolution of this 20-bit CD and the increased space and depth of the 5.1 mix, and you may find that you will be hearing new elements of a favorite old record all over again or perhaps for the first time.

Так что всё таки оно 20-bit, значит всё нормально.

Не буду я тогда выкладывать, раз никто не говорит как это правильно рипать. Все кто хочет идут в Осла :-)

Uzaren

Posted: 27-07-2006, 13:21 (post 18, #633788)

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LAI671
Ты не обижайся, мы все ценим твой труд

А как правельно рипать, я думаю можно попробывать сделать имидж или Алкоголем 120% или Клоном СД

LAI671

Posted: 27-07-2006, 13:27 (post 19, #633793)

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Uzaren
прочитал, действительно звучит как будто я обидлся :fear2:

На самом деле я имел в виду, что неохота выкладывать что-то, что непонять как срипано. Народ будет качать, а получит фуфло :-)

А вообще есть у меня довольно много разновсяких дисков (DTS CD, DTS DVD-A, DVD-A) и я пытаюсь понять как их рипать.

OlCh

Posted: 27-07-2006, 14:11 (post 20, #633809)

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QUOTE (Uzaren @ 27-07-2006, 11:21)

или Алкоголем 120%

вы что, шеф! какие 120% !?, у них тама в Скандинавии веееезде сухой закон :fear2:

, ни 40%, ни 100% :lol:

OlCh

Posted: 27-07-2006, 14:15 (post 21, #633811)

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а ежель серьёзно, то я бы, если диск новый, не поцарапаный, забацал бы его Алкоголем, он лог даёт, а КлонЦД - нет :rolleyes:

и потом на слух проверил бы и вперёд!.... в ослосеть!!!!! :punk:

OlCh

Posted: 27-07-2006, 14:17 (post 22, #633812)

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QUOTE (LAI671 @ 27-07-2006, 11:27)

А вообще есть у меня довольно много разновсяких дисков (DTS CD, DTS DVD-A, DVD-A)

огласите весь список, пжалстаа :wink:

Uzaren

Posted: 27-07-2006, 14:47 (post 23, #633825)

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QUOTE (OlCh @ 27-07-2006, 14:17)

огласите весь список, пжалстаа :wink:

Ага, список - это правельно

Кстате, как там ещё Meddle не пришёл :rolleyes:

LAI671

Posted: 27-07-2006, 15:44 (post 24, #633836)

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Uzaren, OlCh
Ладно, постараюсь написать к вечеру.
Uzaren
похоже уже не придёт

Уже прошёл почти месяц, а диска нет, куча дисков пришла а Meddle нет :-(

Продавец говорит что отправил, так что видимо потеряли :-(

Короче только деньги пропали...

Uzaren

Posted: 27-07-2006, 16:09 (post 25, #633848)

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Ну может не всё так плохо ещё, мне вот пачка дисков месяца три тоже шла, я уже даже и ждать перестал

LAI671

Posted: 27-07-2006, 16:14 (post 26, #633851)

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Ну я тоже не прощаюсь пока что со своим диском и деньгами, но мне из Штатов через 5-7 календарных дней все заказы приходят всегда.

LAI671

Posted: 27-07-2006, 17:41 (post 27, #633872)

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OlCh
Ок, так и поступил, за исключением "...и в солосеть" :lol:

Кто-нибудь поправьте тему топика, замените формат EAC/APE на Alcohol Image.

LAI671

Posted: 27-07-2006, 17:47 (post 28, #633878)

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Список делать лениво :-)

Но есть:

Frank Sinatra
Stray Cats
Doors
Eagles
Alice Cooper
Eric Clapton
Neil Young
Deep Purple
Yes
Davis Miles
Chicago
Mac Fleetwood
Led Zeppelin
Linkin Park
Fourplay

Ну и может что-то ещё если покопаться :-)