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Posted: 27-01-2007, 07:41
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В прошлое лето скачал это издание с инете. Composers: Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Johannes Brahms (1833 - 1897) Anton Bruckner (1824 - 1896) Claude Debussy (1862 - 1918 ) Maurice Ravel (1875 - 1937) Antonin Dvorak (1841 - 1904) Bedrich Smetana (1824 - 1884) Edvard Grieg (1843 - 1907) Jean Sibelius (1865 - 1957) Franz Joseph Haydn (1732 - 1809) Gustav Holst (1874 - 1934) Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756 - 1791) Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky (1839 - 1881) Richard Strauss (1864 - 1949) Camille Saint-Saens (1835 - 1921) Dmitri Shostakovich (1906 - 1975) Robert Schumann (1810 - 1856) Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840 - 1893) Giuseppe Verdi (1813 - 1901) Richard Wagner (1813 - 1883) BERLIN PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA VIENNA PHILHARMONIC ORCHESTRA HERBERT VON KARAJAN - conductor Tracklists ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.1 in C, Op.21 1. Adagio molto - Allegro con brio [10:11] 2. Andante cantabile con moto [6:24] 3. Menuetto (Allegro molto e vivace) [3:56] 4. Finale (Adagio - Allegro molto e vivace) [5:53] Symphony No.2 in D, Op.36 1. Adagio molto - Allegro con brio [10:32] 2. Larghetto [10:20] 3. Scherzo (Allegro) [3:55] 4. Allegro molto [6:28] Total Playing Time: [57:42] ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.3 in E flat, Op.55 -"Eroica" 1. Allegro con brio [14:03] 2. Marcia funebre (Adagio assai) [16:02] 3. Scherzo (Allegro vivace) [6:07] 4. Finale (Allegro molto) [12:15] Music to Goethe's Tragedy "Egmont" op.84 5.Ouverture - Sostenuto, ma non troppo - Allegro [8:00] Total Playing Time: [56:55] ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.4 in B flat, Op.60 1. Adagio - Allegro vivace [10:10] 2. Adagio [9:29] 3. Allegro vivace [5:54] 4. Allegro ma non troppo [5:40] Symphony No.7 in A, Op.92 5. Poco sostenuto - Vivace [11:11] 6. Allegretto [7:45] 7. Presto - Assai meno presto [7:31] 8. Allegro con brio [6:24] Total Playing Time: [1:04:46] ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.5 in C minor, Op.67 1. Allegro con brio [7:18] 2. Andante con moto [9:14] 3. Allegro [4:48] 4. Allegro [8:40] Symphony No.6 in F, Op.68 -"Pastoral" 5. Erwachen heiterer Empfindungen bei der Ankunft auf dem Lande: Allegro ma non troppo [9:04] 6. Szene am Bach: (Andante molto mosso) [10:17] 7. Lustiges Zusammensein der Landleute (Allegro) [3:07] 8. Gewitter, Sturm (Allegro) [3:24] 9. Hirtengesang. Frohe und dankbare Gefuhle nach dem Sturm: Allegretto [8:23] Total Playing Time: [1:04:54] ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.8 in F, Op.93 1. Allegro vivace e con brio [8:56] 2. Allegretto scherzando [4:00] 3. Tempo di menuetto [5:59] 4. Allegro vivace [7:08] 5.Overture "Coriolan", Op.62 [8:32] Fidelio op.72 6.Overture [6:51] 7.Overture "Leonore No.3", Op.72b [13:53] Total Playing Time: [56:03] ============================================================= Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827) Symphony No.9 in D minor, Op.125 - "Choral" 1. Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso [15:22] 2. Molto vivace [10:26] 3. Adagio molto e cantabile [15:50] Excerpt from 4th movement 4. Presto [6:06] 5."O Freunde nicht diese Tone" - [18:13] Total Playing Time: [1:06:16] ============================================================= Johannes Brahms (1833 - 1897) Violin Concerto in D, Op.77 1. Allegro non troppo [22:02] 2. Adagio [9:42] 3. Allegro giocoso, ma non troppo vivace - Poco piu presto [8:34] Concerto for Violin and Cello in A minor, Op.102 4. Allegro [18:04] 5. Andante [7:27] 6. Vivace non troppo - Poco meno allegro - Tempo I [9:04] Total Playing Time: [1:15:10] ============================================================= Anton Bruckner (1824 - 1896) Symphony No.7 in E major 1. Allegro moderato [19:47] 2. Adagio. Sehr feierlich und sehr langsam [23:12] 3. Scherzo. Sehr schnell - Trio. Etwas langsamer [10:10] 4. Finale. Bewegt, doch nicht schnell [12:42] Total Playing Time: [1:06:05] ============================================================= Claude Debussy (1862 - 1918) La Mer 1. From Dawn till Noon on the Sea (De l'aube a midi sur la mer) [8:52] 2. Play of the Waves (Jeux de vagues) [6:46] 3. Dialogue of the Wind and the Sea (Dialogue du vent et de la mer) [8:05] 4. Prelude a l'apres-midi d'un faune [9:51] Maurice Ravel (1875 - 1937) 5.Pavane pour une infante defunte [7:04] 6.Daphnis et Chloe, Suite No.2 [15:14] Total Playing Time: [56:36] ============================================================= Antonin Dvorak (1841 - 1904) Symphony No.9 in E minor, Op.95 "From the New World" 1. Adagio - Allegro molto [9:58] 2. Largo [12:27] 3. Molto vivace [8:36] 4. Allegro con fuoco [11:25] Bedrich Smetana (1824 - 1884) 5.The Moldau (from Ma Vlast) [12:40] Total Playing Time: [55:11] ============================================================= Edvard Grieg (1843 - 1907) Peer Gynt Suite No.1, Op.46 1. Morning mood [4:03] 2. The Death of Aase [4:37] 3. Anitra's dance [3:17] 4. In the Hall of the Mountain King [2:07] Peer Gynt Suite No.2, Op.55 5. The Abduction (Ingrid's lament) [4:54] 6. Arabian dance [4:51] 7. Peer Gynt's return [2:55] 8. Solveig's song [5:59] Holberg Suite, Op.40 9. Praludium (Allegro vivace) [2:54] 10. Sarabande (Andante) [4:16] 11. Gavotte (Allegretto) - Musette (poco piu mosso) - Gavotte [3:46] 12. Air (Andante religioso) [5:51] 13. Rigaudon (Allegro con brio) [3:52] Jean Sibelius (1865 - 1957) Valse triste, Op.44 [5:59] 15.The Swan of Tuonela, Op.22, No.2 [7:50] 16.Finlandia, Op.26 [9:23] Total Playing Time: [1:17:39] ============================================================= Franz Joseph Haydn (1732 - 1809) Symphony in G, H.I No.94 - "Surprise" 1. Adagio - Vivace assai [9:37] 2. Andante [5:36] 3. Menuet (Allegro molto) [4:11] 4. Finale (Allegro di molto) [3:58] Symphony in D, H.I No.101 - "The Clock" 5. Adagio - Presto [8:21] 6. Andante [9:09] 7. Menuet (Allegretto) - Trio [8:55] 8. Finale (Vivace) [4:31] Total Playing Time: [54:45] ============================================================= Gustav Holst (1874 - 1934) The Planets, op.32 1. Mars, the Bringer of War [7:21] 2. Venus, the Bringer of Peace [8:37] 3. Mercury, the Winged Messenger [4:16] 4. Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity [7:36] 5. Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age [9:22] 6. Uranus, the Magician [6:03] 7. Neptune, the Mystic [8:47] Total Playing Time: [52:02] ============================================================= Gustav Mahler (1860 - 1911) CD 1: Symphony No.9 in D 1. Andante comodo [5:20] 2.Etwas frischer [1:17] 3.(Horns) [3:49] 4.Mit Wut. Allegro risoluto [3:47] 5.(Brass) [2:59] 6.Bewegter [3:26] 7.Wie von Anfang [1:57] 8.Ploetzlich bedeutend langsamer (Lento) und leise [5:42] 9.Im Tempo eines gemaechlichen Laendlers.Etwas taeppisch und sehr derb [2:48] 10.Poco piu mosso subito (Tempo II) [2:45] 11.Tempo III [1:43] 12.A tempo II [3:00] 13.Tempo I [1:37] 14.Tempo II [1:34] 15.Tempo I. subito [3:15] Total Playing Time: [44:54] CD 2: Symphony No.9 in D 1. Rondo-Burleske. Allegro assai. Sehr trotzig. [1:46] 2.L'istesso tempo [1:08] 3.Sempre l'istesso tempo [1:20] 4.L'istesso tempo [4:18] 5.(Clarinets) [1:53] 6.Tempo I subito [1:33] 7.Piu stretto [0:57] 8.Adagio. Sehr langsam und noch zurueckhaltend [4:26] 9.Ploetzlich wieder sehr langsam (wie zu Anfang) und etwas zoegernd [2:45] 10.Molto adagio subito [2:19] 11.a tempo (Molto adagio) [3:57] 12.Stets sehr gehalten [1:52] 13.Fliessender, doch durchaus nicht eilend [1:56] 14.Tempo I. Molto adagio [5:45] 15.Adagissimo [3:47] Total Playing Time: [39:35] ============================================================= Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756 - 1791) Mass in C minor, K.427 "Grosse Messe" Rev. and reconstr. by H.C. Robbins Landon 1.Kyrie [8:05] 2.Gloria: Gloria in excelsis Deo [2:22] 3.Gloria: Laudamus te [5:00] 4.Gloria: Gratias [1:26] 5.Gloria: Domine [2:46] 6.Gloria: Qui tollis [7:25] 7.Gloria: Quoniam [4:13] 8.Gloria: Jesu Christe [0:47] 9.Gloria: Cum Sancto spiritu [3:55] 10.Credo: Credo in unum Deum [3:46] 11. Credo: Et incarnatus est [9:00] 12.Sanctus: Sanctus [3:59] 13.Benedictus [5:55] Total Playing Time: [59:19] ============================================================= Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756 - 1791) Requiem in D minor, K.626 compl. by Franz Xaver Sussmayer 1. Introitus: Requiem [5:25] 2. Kyrie [2:40] 3. Sequentia: Dies irae [1:51] 4. Sequentia: Tuba mirum [3:51] 5. Sequentia: Rex tremendae [2:21] 6. Sequentia: Recordare [5:11] 7. Sequentia: Confutatis [2:24] 8. Sequentia: Lacrimosa [3:08] 9. Offertorium: Domine Jesu [3:50] 10. Offertorium: Hostias [4:30] 11 .Sanctus [1:48] 12. Benedictus [5:25] 13. Agnus Dei [3:39] 14.Communio: Lux aeterna [5:54] Total Playing Time: [52:11] ============================================================= Maurice Ravel (1875 - 1937) 1. Bolero [15:46] Rapsodie espagnole 2. Prelude a la nuit [4:12] 3. Malaguena [2:02] 4. Habanera [2:19] 5. Feria [6:44] Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky (1839 - 1881) Pictures at an Exhibition Orchestrated by Maurice Ravel 6.Promenade [1:45] 7. Gnomus [2:33] 8.Promenade [1:04] 9.The Old Castle [4:07] 10.Promenade [0:42] 11.The Tuileries Gardens [1:03] 12.Bydlo [2:37] 13.Promenade [0:55] 14.Ballet of the Chickens in Their Shells [1:10] 15.Samuel Goldenberg and Schmuyle [2:10] 16.The Market-place at Limoges [1:28] 17.The Catacombs (Sepulchrum romanum) [2:05] 18.Cum mortuis in lingua mortua [2:07] 19.The Hut on Fowl's Legs (Baba-Yaga) [3:31] 20.The Great Gate of Kiev [5:57] Total Playing Time: [1:04:20] ============================================================= Richard Strauss (1864 - 1949) Alpensymphonie, Op.64 1.Nacht [3:05] 2.Sonnenaufgang [1:29] 3.Der Anstieg [2:18] 4.Eintritt in den Wald [2:57] 5.Wanderung neben dem Bache [2:39] 6.Am Wasserfall [0:17] 7.Erscheinung [0:51] 8.Auf blumige Wiesen [0:56] 9.Auf der Alm [2:06] 10.Durch Dickicht und Gestrupp auf Irrwegen [1:34] 11.Auf dem Gletscher [1:17] 12.Gefahrvolle Augenblicke [1:28] 13.Auf dem Gipfel [4:31] 14.Vision [3:40] 15.Nebel steigen auf [0:18] 16.Die Sonne verdustert sich allmahlich [0:49] 17.Elegie [2:18] 18.Stille vor dem Sturm [3:02] 19.Gewitter und Sturm, Abstieg [3:58] 20.Sonnenuntergang [2:57] 21.Ausklang [6:02] 22.Nacht [2:45] Total Playing Time: [51:01] ============================================================= Richard Strauss (1864 - 1949) Also sprach Zarathustra, Op.30 1.Prelude (Sonnenaufgang) [1:40] 2.Von den Hinterweltlern [3:30] 3.Von der groben Sehnsucht [2:05] 4.Von den Freuden und Leidenschaften [2:21] 5.Das Grablied [2:28] 6.Von der Wissenschaft [4:34] 7.Der Genesende [5:29] 8.Das Tanzlied - Das Nachtlied [8:25] 9.Das Nachtwanderlied [4:55] 10.Don Juan, Op.20 [18:02] Total Playing Time: [54:10] ============================================================= Richard Strauss (1864 - 1949) Don Quixote,Op. 35/Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks, Op. 28 1. Don Quixote, fantastic variations for cello & orchestra, Op. 35 (TrV 184) 2. Till Eulenspiegels lustige Streiche (Till Eulenspiegel's Merry Pranks), tone poem for orchestra, Op. 28 (TrV 171) ============================================================= Richard Strauss (1864 - 1949) Ein Heldenleben, Op.40 1.Der Held [4:25] 2.Des Helden Widersacher [3:36] 3.Des Helden Gefahrtin [12:43] 4.Des Helden Walstatt [7:37] 5.Des Helden Friedenswerke [6:17] 6.Des Helden Weltflucht und Vollendung [12:02] 7.Tod und Verklarung, Op.24 [25:24] Total Playing Time: [1:12:22] ============================================================= Camille Saint-Saens (1835 - 1921) Symphony No.3 in C minor, Op.78 "Organ Symphony" 1. Adagio - Allegro moderato - [10:38] 2. Poco adagio [11:53] 3. Allegro moderato - Presto - Allegro moderato [7:02] 4. Maestoso - Piu allegro - Molto allegro [8:28] Total Playing Time: [38:01] ============================================================= Dmitri Shostakovich (1906 - 1975) Symphony No.10 in E minor, Op.93 1. Moderato [22:28] 2. Allegro [4:09] 3. Allegretto [11:38] 4. Andante - Allegro [13:05] Total Playing Time: [51:43] ============================================================= Robert Schumann (1810 - 1856) Piano Concerto in A minor, Op.54 1. Allegro affettuoso [15:24] 2. Intermezzo (Andantino grazioso) [5:24] 3. Allegro vivace [10:37] Edvard Grieg (1843 - 1907) Piano Concerto in A minor, Op.16 4. Allegro molto moderato [13:56] 5. Adagio [7:12] 6. Allegro moderato molto e marcato - Quasi presto - Andante maestoso [10:48] Total Playing Time: [1:03:45] ============================================================= Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840 - 1893) Romeo and Juliet, Fantasy Overture 1.Andante non tanto quasi Moderato - Allegro giusto - Moderato assai [22:00] Nutcracker Suite, Op.71a 2.Miniature Overture [3:27] 3.March [2:17] 4.Dance of the Sugar-Plum Fairy [1:36] 5.Russian Dance (Trepak) [1:08] 6.Arabian Dance (Coffee) [2:44] 7.Chinese Dance (Tea) [1:10] 8.Dance of the Reed-Pipes [2:20] 9.Waltz of the Flowers [6:56] Total Playing Time: [44:05] ============================================================= Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840 - 1893) Symphonie Nr. 4 in F minor 1. Andante Sostenuto - Moderato Con Anima [18:38] 2. Andantino In Modo Di Canzone [10:07] 3. Scherzo. Allegro [5:43] 4. Finale. Allegro Con Fuoco [8:37] Total Playing Time: [43:05] ============================================================= Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840 - 1893) Symphony No.5 in E minor, Op.64 1. Andante - Allegro con anima [15:46] 2. Andante cantabile, con alcuna licenza - Moderato con anima [13:33] 3. Valse (Allegro moderato) [6:26] 4. Finale (Andante maestoso - Allegro vivace) [11:59] Total Playing Time: [47:45] ============================================================= Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky (1840 - 1893) Symphony No.6 in B minor, Op.74 -"Pathetique" 1. Adagio - Allegro non troppo [18:19] 2. Allegro con grazia [8:47] 3. Allegro molto vivace [8:29] 4. Finale (Adagio lamentoso - Andante) [9:43] Total Playing Time: [45:41] ============================================================= Giuseppe Verdi (1813 - 1901) Messa da Requiem CD 1: 1. Requiem [7:51] 2. Dies irae [2:20] 3. Tuba mirum [3:47] 4. Liber scriptus [5:05] 5. Quid sum miser [3:53] 6. Rex tremendae [3:42] 7. Recordare [4:28] 8. Ingemisco [3:55] 9. Confutatis [5:58] 10. Lacrymosa [6:01] Total Playing Time: [46:59] CD 2: 1. Offertorium [11:21] 2. Sanctus [3:00] 3. Agnus Dei [4:41] 4. Lux aeterna [6:29] 5. Libera me [13:51] Total Playing Time: [39:34] ============================================================= Richard Wagner (1813 - 1883) Tannhauser and the Contest of Song on the Wartburg 1.Overture [10:49] 2.Bacchanale (Venusberg) [12:52] Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg 3.Prelude [6:23] Tristan und Isolde Concert version 4.Prelude [12:21] 5.Liebestod [7:16] Total Playing Time: [50:03] =============================================================
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Posted: 30-01-2007, 19:30
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Вот спасибо, если что, буду знать кого просить... Слава Богу с рейтингом порядок (всеми силами держу), да вот только не сильно популярна сейчас классика... А если бы золото, то народу бы больше скачало, да в локалки повыкладывали бы, глядишь и приверженцев классики появилось бы больше. А то народ деградирует. |
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Posted: 30-01-2007, 20:38
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Спасибо за поправку!!! Прошу извинить меня!!! Во второй раз уже делаю эта не очень... ошибка. Болгарское выражение опять подвело меня.
А эта деградация уже 25-30 лет отчетливо заметна. Видимо процес этот глобальный. Можеть быть именно поэтому грамофонные компании стали выпускать полние собрания композиторов и всякого рода boxed sets - чтобы снова возбудить интерес к классики. Не знаю, но лично мне кажется что в последние годы положение классики немножко улучшилось. Кажется также что огромный интерес азиатцев к классической музыки равно как и развитие интернета имеют очень большой вклад в этом улучшении. This post has been edited by vpenev on 31-01-2007, 07:02 |
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Posted: 31-01-2007, 19:59
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К счастью народ не деградирует, просто появилось много желающих заработать на культурных ценностях, отсюда море попсни. В целом же тенденция позитивная |
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Posted: 31-01-2007, 20:03
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меломан Group: Prestige Posts: 18022 Warn:0% |
vpenev если не трудно, перечисли плиз те релизы классики, которые вы с bobit раздавали. (тут два хардрайва по 300гиг прибыло ) |
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Posted: 31-01-2007, 23:18
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СПАСИБО |
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Posted: 01-02-2007, 05:48
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Mozart - Complete Works 170 CD (2006)[Brilliant Classics][EAC/APE/Lossless (VBR)] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=5846 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.1 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6170 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.2 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6177 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.3 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6195 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.4 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6207 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.5 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6227 Complete Beethoven Edition (No.6 of 6)(DG, 87CDs total)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6230 Chopin - (DG, Complete Edition)(17CDs&BOOK)(1999)[EAC/APE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=6320 J. S. Bach - Complete cantatas - Ton Koopman [67CDs][EAC/FLAC, EAC/APE+CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8499 Mendelssohn - The Masterworks [40CDs, Brilliant Classics] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8584 Joseph HAYDN - Complete Symphonies [Brilliant Classics, 33 CD's][FLAC] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8613 Bach 2000 - The Complete Bach Edition [BOX SET][LIMITED EDITION][EAC/APE + CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8722 Bach 2000 - [Vol. 5 - CD2, 7 & 8][FIXED][EAC/FLAC + CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8807 Schubert - The Ten Symphonies (Neville Marriner)(2003)[EAC/FLAC] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8809 Various Artists - The Top 100 Masterpieces of Classical Music (1991)[EAC/FLAC] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8847 JOHANNES BRAHMS - Complete Brahms Edition [DG, 1996, 46 CDs BOX SET][EAC/APE+CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8845 Mario del Monaco Decca Recitals 1952 - 1969 [Decca, 5CDs][EAC / FLAC + CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8903 Richard WAGNER - The Complete Operas [43 CD's][EAC / FLAC + CUE, Booklets] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=8945 Antonin DVORAK - The Masterworks [40 CD Set][EAC/FLAC+CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=9035 Karajan Gold [DG,32CDs][EAC,APE+CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=9088 The Alban Berg Collection [DG, 8 CD's BOX SET][EAC/APE+CUE] http://torrent.e2k.ru/details.php?id=9106 Все перечисленые торенты живы. Эсли хочешь можешь скачать и ЭТОТ РЕЛИЗ. Он намного лучше чем Mozart (Brilliant Classics). Стоит скачать также и ЭТОТ РЕЛИЗ. В то время как Bach 2000 (Teldec) исполнен в стиле и на инструментах эпохи барока, то этот Bach (Hanssler Edition) исполнен на современые инструменты и в современном стиле. This post has been edited by vpenev on 01-02-2007, 06:39 |
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Posted: 01-02-2007, 06:50
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меломан Group: Prestige Posts: 18022 Warn:0% |
спасибо, надеюсь ratio не сильно пострадает |
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Posted: 02-02-2007, 07:12
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Может быть ты прав!!! Надеюсь что явление именно такое!!! И что чрезмерное увеличение "желающих заработать на культурных ценностях" просто екранирует настолько сильно все другие процесы что из за этой екранировки даже позитивние тенденции выглядят как деградация. [К тому же эсть еще один очень существеный фактор - катастрофически быстрое наращивание популяции хомо сапиенс сапиенс за счет всех остальных биологических видов. Но можеть быть без наращивания, или даже сопровождаемое со снижением, общего (для вида) культурного уровня. ] This post has been edited by vpenev on 02-02-2007, 07:17 |
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