> Re-Author Ripped Watermarked DVD-AUDIOS
 isaakvon Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-05-2007, 18:30 (post 1, #747094)

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First of all congratulations for the great forum and sorry for my english as I don´t speak russian. I made a discovery this evening that my interest some of you. I´ve downloaded the DVDA form ELP Brain-Salad-Surgery which is watermarked but not copy protected. What I did first was to extract the mlp files with DVDaudio Extractor and decided to author the first track NOT with CHROME but with DIGIONAUDIO2, which indeed suports 5.1 24/96 mlp files, although in the help and elsewere says it doesn´t. I played it then through my Marantz 6400 and for my surprise it DID NOT STOP anywere. First of all I thougt itwas a mistake from the uploader so the DVD couldn´t not be watermarked. Well, to leave any doubt, I´ve authored the same track now with CHROME. The surprise was indeed huge as after 20 seconds the disc stopped! So Yes, the disc is watermarked but the watermark can be "trusted" by authoring with DIGIONAUDIO2. As I just have this watermarked DVD-AUDIO I couldn´t prove if it works in any others, but I can´t see any reason why it shoudn´t to. Perhaps anyone of you guys would like to check it further out?
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Isaak
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 rcon Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-05-2007, 19:43 (post 2, #747120)

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Тут есть только одно слово: фигассе. :) Если это правда я напьюсь немедля! :)
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 fchef Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-05-2007, 23:05 (post 3, #747204)

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DVDaudio Extractor? Do you mean DVD-A Explorer?
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 isaakvon Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-05-2007, 23:13 (post 4, #747207)

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Ups! Yes, of course, I ment DVD-A Explorer
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 fchef Member is Offline
 Posted: 09-05-2007, 23:22 (post 5, #747215)

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Can you also tell us which exactly version of Digion Audio did you use? And what software you used to burn the disc?
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 isaakvon Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 00:14 (post 6, #747230)

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I used the version 2.21 R8, which has a burning engine incorporated that I used to burn the disc. Anyway I´ve realised the it wasn´t as I thought, then after re-authoring the whole DVD, there are some tracks that do stop, so, they are still watermarked. I didn´t know that this could hapen, but indeed; some tracks play entirely, and some stop. So moderators, feel free to remove this post because I´m not longer sure of its profit.
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 OlCh Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 08:46 (post 7, #747295)

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QUOTE (rcon @ 09-05-2007, 17:43)
Тут есть только одно слово: фигассе. :) Если это правда я напьюсь немедля! :)
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isaakvon Posted on Yesterday, 22:14
...I didn´t know that this could hapen, but indeed; some tracks play entirely, and some stop....
а теперь как же? с горя теперь придётся? :fear2: :laugh: :beer:
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 doltman Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 09:06 (post 8, #747304)

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So Yes, the disc is watermarked but the watermark can be "trusted" by authoring with DIGIONAUDIO2.
Unfortunately, the only way the watermarked disc can be be "trusted" by player is to have CSS protection as well, there is no other way around. And there are no available DVD-writers on the market to burn discs with CSS. Maybe, this http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070301-8952.html will be "the solution" soon...

This post has been edited by doltman on 10-05-2007, 09:06
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 OlCh Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 09:30 (post 9, #747313)

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растолкуй плис кратко чо они там пишут :)
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 Posted: 10-05-2007, 09:48 (post 10, #747316)

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QUOTE (OlCh @ 10-05-2007, 09:30)
doltman
растолкуй плис кратко чо они там пишут :)
Что скоро можно будет прожигать диски с CSS защитой прямо на дому, а не только печатать их на сертифицированном заводе:)
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 OlCh Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 09:55 (post 11, #747319)

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а копирайт как же? а Тёщу с её аппетитом куда? :crazy:
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 doltman Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 10:22 (post 12, #747327)

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QUOTE (OlCh @ 10-05-2007, 09:55)
а копирайт как же? а Тёщу с её аппетитом куда? :crazy:
Теща уже обо всем подумала. Сюжет там предлагается такой:

1. Платим денег и скачиваем фильм с Интернета, а не просто покупаем в магазине.
2. Жжем его на CSS защищенный диск.
3. Смотрим на DVD плеере.

Здесь студия сильно экономит на дистрибуции контента, а зритель теоретически получает доступ к большему количеству редких-иностранных-старых фильмов. Вообщем, очень разумная идея. CSS там нужна чтобы фильмы как-бы дальше не переписывали:) Хотя манагеры от искусства привыкли гноить все разумное-доброе-вечное - можем и не дождаться:(
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 dvoretsa Member is Offline
 Posted: 10-05-2007, 10:32 (post 13, #747333)

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Насколько я понял в статье идет речь только о CSS, а не CSS2, который используется в DVD-Audio. И что-то мне подсказывает, что мануфактуреры не совсем еще сошли с ума, чтобы добровольно отказаться от единственного вида защиты от копирования, который остается не взломаным...
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 Posted: 10-05-2007, 11:03 (post 14, #747347)

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QUOTE (dvoretsa @ 10-05-2007, 10:32)
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Насколько я понял в статье идет речь только о CSS, а не CSS2, который используется в DVD-Audio. И что-то мне подсказывает, что мануфактуреры не совсем еще сошли с ума, чтобы добровольно отказаться от единственного вида защиты от копирования, который остается не взломаным...
CSS2 = CSS_Authentication + MKB + Watermarking.
Ну, поживем - увидим...
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